Lobo Marino is Jameson Price on percussion and Laney Sullivan on harmonium and voice. Together they make atmospheric music that echoes the sounds they've experienced on their global travels. It's world music that asks you to slow down and just be. Produced with the Field Note Stenographers and students from the Mercer University Center for Collaborative Journalism.

T. Hardy Morris has moved some molecules in his day as a member of the very loud Athens, GA band Dead Confederate. In recent years, Morris has turned it down a notch with solo work both quieter and more personal. In this Field Session Morris talks about how turning into your Dad isn't so bad, about work life balance for a touring musician with a wife, a kid and a baby on the way and on the difference between a poet and a songwriter. Produced with the Field Note Stenographers.

In this session, Col. Bruce Hampton recorded at Capricorn Studio. Col. Bruce is a legend of Georgia music who has been unafraid to wave his freak flag high since the 1960s. In this interview with Chris Nylund and Jared Wright of the Field Note Stenographers music collective, Col. Bruce introduces us to the numerology of Southern humidity and gives us a glimpse of the weird heyday of a late 60s music boomtown called Macon. A note, in this first story, Gregg is none other than Gregg Allman. Tracks include Say Thanks To Chank, Arkansas and Basically Frightened.

Billy Joe Shaver might not be the household name that other country musicians of his generation are but the Texas native who still calls Waco home used to run with Willie Nelson and famously threatened Waylon Jennings to make good on a promise to record his songs. Jennings kept the promise and the album "Honky Tonk Heroes," comprised mainly of tunes penned by Shaver, is a classic of country music. But before that, Billy Joe Shaver was a laborer and a cowboy. It took losing three fingers on his strumming hand at a lumber mill before he made a deal with God to do what he felt he was supposed to do: write songs. In this Field Session from the Capitol Theatre in Macon, listen to Billy Joe Shaver talk about those early days. From the Field Note Stenographers and GPB Music. https://youtu.be/Lu3BfDjbnfA

Billy Joe Shaver might not be the household name that other country musicians of his generation are. The Texas native who still calls Waco home used to run with Willie and threatened Waylon to make good on a promise to record his songs. But before that he was just a laborer and a cowboy who had to lose three fingers before making a deal with God to do what he was supposed to do: write songs. From the Capitol Theatre in Macon.

Napean LLC has sold its Mobile Marketer and Mobile Commerce Daily publications, but retained the events business comprising conferences, webinars, podcasts and awards, founder Mickey Alam Khan announced today.

Among the small businesses shuttered by shelter-in-place orders are two of Georgia’s historic art-house theaters. How are these independent cinemas surviving, and innovating, now that their screens have gone dark? Christopher Escobar, owner of Atlanta’s Plaza Theatre and executive director of the Atlanta Film Society, said that business had already been slowing down for about two weeks prior to their closing. And Pamela Kohn, executive director of Ciné in Athens, said their decision to shut down the theater was difficult, but necessary.

These five oldies but goodies from the On Second Thought archive cover topics from rocket science to recipe books. Check out these stories to start your week out with some good news. What are some of your favorite On Second Thought segments? Leave us a message on our Facebook group or our Twitter page . 1) “ From Ma Rainey To Otis Redding, The Musical Roots That Gave Georgia Its Sound ” Last September, we were joined by musical scholars, Joycelyn Wilson, Lance Ledbetter, and Jamie Weatherford to discuss the history of music in Georgia. From Outkast to James Brown, and from Brenda Lee to Jason Aldean, Georgia has produced some of the most respected minds in blues, country, soul, rock, and dozens of other genres. 2) “ Primatologist Frans De Waal Explores What Humans Can Learn From Animal Emotions ” April 2019 saw Atlanta-based author and primatologist Frans de Waal discuss his book Mama’s Last Hug: Animal Emotions . His work explores how primates and other animals experience emotions

The closure of schools, restaurants and hotels has wreaked havoc on the nation’s food supply. Dairy farmers are pouring out milk, hog prices are plummeting, and unhatched eggs are being crushed. Jon Jackson is executive director of StagVets and founder of Comfort Farms in Milledgeville. He relies on veterans to help raise heritage breeds of animals and produce — specialty items that were once in big demand from some of Georgia’s top restaurants. Now, Jackson is making them available to hungry families through a virtual farmers market.

On this week’s return to our archives, On Second Thought is presenting some of our favorite arts and media stories. From movies to “Mobituaries,” motivate your Monday with some memorable pieces from yesteryear. 1) First, She Got Oprah's Attention. Now, She's On Netflix. What Will Kyanna Simone Simpson Do Next? Decatur native and University of Georgia graduate Kyanna Simone Simpson has seen a meteoric rise in the last few years. She stars in Netflix’s Chambers , as well as Ma (2019) alongside Octavia Spencer, the CW’s Black Lightning , and The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks (2017), a HBO biopic. Her career caught the attention of Oprah Winfrey, who cast Simone Simpson in her own biopic. She joined On Second Thought and reflected on media representation and her own experiences in the industry. 2) Pat Mitchell On 'Becoming A Dangerous Woman' — And The Importance Telling Their Stories Pat Mitchell is a massive name in the news industry — as president of CNN Productions and the first

Billy Bragg is many things: a poet, punk rocker, folk musician, and singer-songwriter. He’s also an activist, music historian, and best-selling author. In the words of another poet, he contains multitudes. Bragg’s newest work, The Three Dimensions of Freedom , is a slim volume that makes a weighty argument. It’s a pamphlet in the tradition of Thomas Paine, whose influential polemics helped spark the American Revolution, and later got him convicted of sedition.

There are some things that just feel like they’re true. For example, the idea that people who are gifted musicians are also good at learning math, or vice versa. However, there isn’t any data that suggests that there are any links in the brain between these proclivities. As Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke...

There are many benefits to mindfulness, but it might not be for everyone. On this week’s edition of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke talk about the more negative elements of being present.

We give for many reasons, and most of the time it feels pretty good to help other people. But when you’re on the receiving end of generosity feelings can be mixed. In this edition of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke talk about the psychology of giving and receiving.

This is too good to leave on the cutting room floor. Dr. Art Markman explains new research on how dogs read human facial expressions and what it could tell us about how they think.

Say a store you love changes hands and you aren’t too fond of the new place. So why do you continue to go back to the store when you know it’s not the same? Turns out a lot of psychology goes into the decision-making process around this dilemma. On this edition of Two Guys on...

In the heat of the moment, revenge can be an appealing idea to consider but often it has devastating results with fleeting satisfaction. Revenge narratives permeate popular media and we dislike when a wrongdoer goes unpunished, so why don’t we actually decide to carry out justice ourselves? On this edition of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr....

When thinking about the concept of a “micro aggression”, what we’re really doing is subscribing to signal detection theory. What is the theory and how does it come into play when we’re dissecting the behaviors of others? In the first episode of this two-part conversation on Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke discuss...

We’ve covered what signal detection theory is, so how does it come up when we assign labels to behaviors that could be considered “micro aggressions”? Are there significant benefits to these labels? In the second episode of this two-part conversation on Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke continue their discussion on signal detection....

A psychological study with null results is less likely to be published than one with surprising results, so it’s no wonder researchers tailor and conduct experiments with a preferred outcome in mind. So why is it so difficult to replicate a popular study around the time of its initial publication? In this episode of Two...

A new idea that matches our beliefs is easy to latch onto and one that contradicts us makes us try and find reasons why it’s false. In an age of information-seeking, how can we best judge “the facts”? In this episode of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke discuss accepting and dismissing information.

A new idea that matches our beliefs is easy to latch onto and one that contradicts us makes us try and find reasons why it’s false. In an age of information-seeking, how can we best judge “the facts”? In this episode of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke discuss accepting and dismissing...

KUT’s Rebecca McInroy along with Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke talk about why it’s so important to diversify your interests. What is unhealthy about a one track mind? And why is it important to step outside our brain’s comfort zone?

It turns out there is a lot to learn about when studying the psychology of near misses. One thing we learn is that the memories of these events–like the time you almost ran into a tree with your bike, or the time you stuck your head out of a moving train and then pulled it...

Many factors play into how we make sense of the world and our place in it. In this episode of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke talk about how the accessibility of certain explanations frames our understanding.

Random unbidden thoughts can be unsettling, especially when they are persistent, perhaps frightening, and seemingly out of the blue. In this edition of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman, and Dr. Bob Duke, demystify the phenomenon of intrusive thoughts.

During this time of crisis, you might be at home feeling guilty that you aren’t doing more to help people. You might not know what to do. You might feel you ought to be doing more. On this edition of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke answer a listener...

When it comes to how information influences our mood, how we identify ourselves plays a big role. In this edition of Two Guys on Your Head, Dr. Art Markman and Dr. Bob Duke talk about the role of identity in processing information.

Listen back to our Views and Brews discussion recorded live at The Cactus Cafe in Austin, Texas as we ask What is Austin Music and Can it Feed Your Family?  KUT’s Rebecca McInroy along with Graham Reynolds, Redd Volkaert, Leslie Sisson, Thor Harris, and Brannen Temple to talk about collaborating across musical cultures; what it...

Bradley and Karen discuss the inclusion of ZFS GPLv2-or-later code inclusion into GNU GRUB.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley and Karen discussed the inclusion of ZFS code now included in GRUB, as the GRUB Project announced and was covered at LWN by Jonathan Corbet.
• It's not mandatory that GNU projects have assignment to the FSF. The GNU Maintainer's guide discuss the requirements when items are assigned to FSF. (14:40)
• FSF requires that the entire codebase be assigned once GNU project maintainers choose to assign copyrights. Conservancy's policy on copyright assignment differs here; Conservancy will accept partial copyright assignment. (16:07)
• Bradley mentioned the COBOL front end to GCC that is not in the main GCC codebase because it is not copyright assigned to FSF. (17:40)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the Squeak relicensing last call. (25:49)
• Bradley posted a comment to Corbet's article. (32:30)

Final (45:45)

• The calendar Bradley was thinking of was the International Fixed Calendar, which Wikipedia confirms, with a sourced link, was used by the Eastman Kodak Company from 1928 to 1989.

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Bradley and Karen discuss types of copyleft generally and introduce the basics of license compatibility and -or-later clauses.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

• This show discusses copyleft and basic issues of license compatibility (04:09)
• Karen mentioned an episode of the old Software Freedom Law Show, Episode 0x08, where Bradley and Karen discussed selecting a FLOSS license and what the various options are. (04:45)
• license compatibility 06:28
• Bradley incorrectly said that the original Emacs license didn't have the word General in it. However, the other explanations appear to be correct. There's a useful history page that someone wrote about the history of GPL. It appears the non-general GNU copylefts existed from 1984-1988. (06:57)
• Karen noted that the Library GPL was renamed to the Lesser GPL which happened in 1999. (09:30)
• Bradley mentioned that when he and RMS worked on the GNU Classpath Exception, Bradley suggested it be called the Least GPL. (10:38)
• GPL doesn't have a choice of law clause. If another copyleft does, it surely is incompatible with the GPL. (14:17)
• AGPLv3 § 13 and GPLv3 § 13 explicitly make themselves compatibility with each other, which Bradley calls compatibility by fiat. (15:40)
• Karen mentioned that the Mozilla Public License § 13 has a section about multiple licensed code (16:50).
• Bradley mentioned that Mozilla Firefox uses a combinatorial license: (GPL|LGPL|MPL), which is a disjunctive tri-license. (19:00).
• Bradley mentioned that the old Software Freedom Law Show Episode 0x17 discussed compatibility of permissively licensed software and copylefted software. (20:22)
• Apache Software License 2.0 was likely the first FLOSS license to have an explicit patent licensing provision (23:40)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the fact that -only vs. -or-later are options with the GPL, while they are not with other copylefts, such as CC-By-SA. (30:11)

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Dan Lynch (filling in for Karen) and Bradley discuss a few examples where licensing decisions by companies impacts the health of the software development community.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:36)

• Dan interviewed the CentOS developers on FLOSS Weekly. (00:05:52)
• Bradley has a blog post that describes RHEL licensing model. His previous blog post to that one, while mostly off-topic here, has a few points of interest. (00:10:36)
• Dan Lynch mentioned The Smoking Man from the The X Files television series. (00:17:22)
• Bradley mentioned that Lennart Poettering is a Red Hat employee working on systemd, which is now in Fedora, but not in RHEL yet (as far as we know). (00:18:53)
• Bradley suggested that developers starting projects read Karsten Wade's The Open Source Way, and Karl Fogel's Producing Open Source Software: How to Run a Successful Free Software Project, and Bradley's blog post about developing in public. (00:22:16)
• Dan and Bradley briefly discussed copyright abolition. Dan mentioned Stallman's writing on the Pirate Party's copyright positions.

Segment 1 (00:32:30)

• Bradley briefly discussed the history of StarOffice, and the creation of OpenOffice.org. (00:33:40)
• Bradley explained issues related to the LibreOffice fork of OpenOffice.org. (00:37:30)
• Bradley has talked about how proprietary relicensing is very dangerous (00:39:50)
• Fedora, Ubuntu, and OpenSUSE all switched to LibreOffice as a default. Bradley didn't know at recording time that the OpenOffice package in wheezy is a transition package to switch to LibreOffice. (00:41:24)
• Bradley and Dan mentioned a blog post by IBM's Rob Weir that misquotes the FSF to support IBM's positions on the OO.o relicensing issue. (00:58:26)
• Bradley mentioned the idea that Apache-2.0 work can be relicensed under LGPLv3-or-later, as he discussed in his blog post about the OO.o relicensing (01:00:45)
• Dan mentioned Jeremy Allison's comment on the aforementioned post on Rob Weir's blog. (01:02:08)

Segment 2 (01:16:09)

Bradley thanked Dan, on behalf of Karen, for all his work to make Free as in Freedom possible.

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Bradley and Karen play and comment on a talk recording of Aaron Williamson's and Karen's presentation at OSCON 2011, entitled Legal Basics for Developers.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:33)

• Bradley mentioned the birthday attack when explaining to Karen how likely it might be that the number of the show might match the number of the day. (01:38)
• This show is a recording of Aaron and Karen's OSCON 2011 talk, Legal Basics for Developers. (02:20)

Segment 1 (05:53)

• The slides for the Legal Basics for Developers are available to follow along with the recording (05:53)

Segment 2 (49:36)

• Richard Fontana gave at a talk at OSCON as well, which was recorded, and Karen and Bradley have asked for his permission to play it. (50:45)
• Bradley asked folks to ping Richard on identi.ca to ask him to allow us to use his audio on the oggcast. (51:05)

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Bradley and Karen play a speech recording of Richard Fontana's presentation at OSCON 2011, entitled Contributor Agreements Considered Harmful.

Note: this show and the slides from Richard Fontana are licensed under CC-By-SA-3.0 USA. This will be the new license of the show for this and future episodes.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• This show is a recording of Richard Fontana's talk Contributor Agreements Considered Harmful. (03:13)

Segment 1 (03:34)

• Richard Fontana has made his slides from his talk available on his website.
• Bradley live-dented Fontana's talk from OSCON.
• Richard Fontana references Michael Meeks' essay, Some thoughts on Copyright Assignment (29:55)

Segment 2 (45:17)

• Bradley and Karen were on a panel discussion on copyright assignment at Desktop Summit. (45:33)
• Bradley mentioned that Mark Shuttleworth's obsession with cadence had a similar weird effect on a different debate. (58:30)
• Karen has done some pro bono work for PubPat, and also Question Copyright (01:01:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss recent debates about the value of non-profit organizations for Free Software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Fontana (and other Red Hat employees) pointed out some imprecision in what Bradley said in Episode 0x1D about Debian non-free. (01:07)
• A call for participation has been announced for the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012. Please submit a proposal by 30 December 2011 (04:30)
• A recent debate about non-profits started, initiated by a blog post called Apache Considered Harmful. (12:55)
• Karen and Bradley briefly mentioned that some now believe that Considered Harmful Considered Harmful (13:16)
• A long thread on this issue occurred on the FLOSS Foundations mailing list (13:45)
• Bradley made an official Conservancy Blog post about the value of non-profits for Free Software (14:17)
• Sourceforge became proprietary software in 2001, as is well-described in this by The Sourceforge proprietarization debacle is well described in an article by Loïc Dachary. (19:19)
• Bradley mentioned FaiFCast Episode 0x11, which discussed the OpenOffice.org/Apache/LibreOffice situation. (44:35)
• Bradley pointed out that this debate conflates a lot of different issues, and tried to list all the conflated questions here:
  • Should a non-profit home decide what technical infrastructure is used for a software freedom project? And if so, what should it be?
  • If the projects doesn't provide technological services, should non-profits allow their projects to rely on for-profits for technological or other services?
  • Should a non-profit home set political and social positions that must be followed by the projects? If so, how strictly should they be enforced?
  • Should copyrights be held by the non-profit home of the project, or with the developers, or a mix of the two?
  • Should the non-profit dictate licensing requirements on the project? If so, how many licenses are ok?
  • Should a non-profit dictate strict copyright provenance requirements on their projects? If not, should the non-profit at least provide guidelines and recommendations?

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Karen and Bradley discuss the various private Free Software legal fora and consider if a more open community for discussion might be better, and also discuss the just-ended CFP for the FOSDEM Legal and Policy Issues Dev Room.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

• Bradley and Karen were discussing the NYS charities filing requirements for auditing and limited review, as can be seen NYS CHAR-500 instructions, on page 5 of 6, §V(6) . (03:02)
• Bradley and Karen mentioned the old show, SFLS 0x19, where they discussed Conservancy's FY 2008 Form 990. (03:27)
• Bradley mentioned he still works at a cow-orking facility (04:15)
• Bradley mentioned that various charity rating sites like Charity Navigator and GuideStar. (05:58)
• Bradley mentioned Lawrence Welk (09:50)
• Bradley is speaking on GPL enfoircement at SCALE 10x.
• keynoting on Thursday 19 January 2012 at Linux Conf Australia 2012.
• Bradley doesn't like the Chatham House Rule. (20:30)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Michael Meeks's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Risks and Benefits of Copyright Assignment from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen introduce Michael's talk.

Segment 1 (01:56)

Michael's slides are available from faif.us and from his blog post on the talk.

Segment 2 (26:47)

• Bradley mentioned GNU Mediagoblin as an example of a true upstream multi-copyright-holder AGPLv3'd project. (28:10)
• Bradley mentioned that LibreOffice is “wealthy” as well by Michael Meeks standards, given their successful fundraisers. (29:38)
• Bradley mentioned the Desktop Summit panel that he and Michael were on and Karen moderated. (34:06)
• Bradley and Michael co-authored (with Vincent Untz) the GNOME Copyright Assignment Guidelines. (35:30)
• FSF was previously supportive of MySQL AB back in 2002, but Michael also used to support the Sun JCA. (38:20)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:33)

• Bradley mentioned the BPM for the human heart is to the Bee Gee's song, STayin' Alive. (01:55)
• FaiF's bandwidth is provided by OSU-OSL. Please donate to OSU-OSL. (09:50)
• Bradley and Karen discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case. (12:26)
• Bradley couldn't find quickly a full telling of the windings/SCO font thing, but this blog mentions it (29:34)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance and other issues related to copyright assignment.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:46)

• Bradley didn't want his words compared to the Ayn Rand's quote from an interview with Phil Donahue where she said I'm not going to die, it's just that world will end. (02:54)
• Bradley discussed the reaction to on 0x36 that occurred in this identi.ca thread. (04:20)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance. (11:15)
• Bradley pointed out that every other copyleft license allows for relicensing under newer versions automatically (i.e., they have an automatic -or-later ), and Karen asked whether Sun's CDDL does. Bradley checked later, Karen was correct that CDDL's later version clause (Section 4) is similar to the GPL policy. (23:00) However, Fontana wrote to us on IRC to say CDDL's license upgradeability clause is not entirely like GPL's. The GPL states that if no version number is specified, any version can be used. CDDL does not say this; it seems to assume that it will always be clear what version CDDL code will be distributed under, whereas GPL seems to assume otherwise.
• Bradley mentioned the interview he did with The H Online on GPL enforcement. (41:57)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gervase Markham's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Mozilla: Licensing In The Trenches.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley encouraged listeners to Conservancy's campaign for non-profit accounting software.
(02:10)
• Bradley mentioned his 2009 blog post encouraging people to donate to Free Software charities (02:50)
• Karen asked people to donate to the GNOME Foundation privacy campaign (04:11)

Segment 1 (00:04:57)

Gerv's slides from his FOSDEM 2013 talk can be downloaded from FOSDEM's website.

Segment 2 (00:51:48)

Bradley and Karen discuss Gerv's talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss The panel discussion on the GNU Affero General Public License from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

• Bradley asked for donations again to Conservancy's NPO accounting software campaign and Karen asked for donations to GNOME's Privacy Campaign.

Segment 1 (00:04:50)

This is the Panel Discussion: GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 from FOSDEM 2013. The speakers, in the order their voices are heard, are Tom Marble (introduction), Richard Fontana (moderator), Bradley M. Kuhn, Eileen Evans, and Christopher Allan Webber.

Segment 2 (01:06:47)

• Bradley mentioned the phrase Give me convenience or give me death, which is from a title of the Dead Kennedys album he suggested applied to the selection of proprietary software (01:10:10)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' recent update to his Who does that server really serve? essay. (01:11:30)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post on doing VoIP encryption with Free Software. (01:14:04)
• Bradley mentioned his talk entitled The Affero GPLv3: Why It Exists & Who It's For? at the Southern California Linux Expo 11x. The slides are available and the sources for the slides are available. (01:17:30)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Jean-Baptiste Kempf's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Relicensing libVLC and VLC modules from GPL to LGPL.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:28)

• The plural of hiatus appears to be hiatukset, but hiatuses is the proper English. (01:50)
• Bradley adopted two dogs from a shelter. They like kongs (02:30)
• Bradley's wife has a blog with pictures of their dogs. (04:30)

Segment 1 (00:05:52)

Jean-Baptiste Kempf slides are available for this talk.

Segment 2 (01:03:20)

• Bradley had written a a blog post about the VLC relicensing. (01:03:48)
• Bradley mentioned a an article in The Onion about pugs known health problems (01:15:47)
• Karen mentioned The Last GUADEC blog post.

Segment 3 (01:21:00)

Bradley and Karen discussed the release of the ExFAT Samsung source code.

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Bradley and Karen explain why they've been gone for so long, and then discuss the recent Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

• Karen is now Executive Director of Conservancy and Bradley is President and Distinguished Technologist. (03:01)
• Bradley will be working extensively on the NPO Accounting Project. (03:40)

Segment 1 (00:09:37)

• Karen says the Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision is not an engaging read, but the lower court decision was. (09:50)
• Karen said: You're out of your element, Donny! (12:38)
• Karen mentioned a tweet from the EFF (15:23)
• Bradley mentioned his older blog post about the previous decision (16:48)
• Karen incorrectly said we never recorded a show on the previous decision, but we did indeed discuss the previous Oracle v. Google decision in , which Bradley and Karen discussed in Episode 0x35 (18:53)
• Karen and Bradley explained what an affirmative defense, arguments in the alternative, and merger doctrine. (21:03)
• Bradley mentioned the Apache Software Foundation is now publicly more against copyleft software than proprietary software, and that such position is unreasonable, unlike the OpenBSD position that copyleft and proprietary software are equally bad: a position Bradley disagrees with but agrees is consistent, reasonable moral stance. (38:40)
• Bradley mentioned his discussions with Mark J. Wielaard of the Classpath project (52:20)
• Bradley and Karen ask people to doante to Conservancy.

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Bradley and Karen host a panel discussion on CLAs with Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the panel discussion.

Segment 1 (01:28)

• The panel guests are Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.
• Van quoted from the Apache Corporate CLA. (40:55)

Segment 2 (48:17)

• Bradley and Karen wrap up the discussion.
• Bradley mentioned the AKG C1000S which we use to record the oggcast. (50:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Copyleft vs. Permissive vs. Contributor License Agreements: A Veteran’s Perspective by Simo Sorce given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Simo's talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:02)

The slides from Simo's talk are available, if you want to follow along

Segment 2 (00:59:50)

• Bradley menitoned his blog post about CLA's on Conservancy's website. (01:00:10)

Segment 3 (01:10:22)

Bradley and Karen are still trying to decide what to do about the FOSDEM 2014 talks.

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Bradley and Karen give a basic introduction of copyright licensing of Open Source and Free Software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley mentioned the phrase “fixed in a tangible medium” which appears in the USA copyright law. (03:10)
• Bradley mentioned the Sherman Antitrust act. (04:05)
• Bradley mentioned the card game Pit (04:15)
• Bradley jokingly quoted Mit Romney's famous gaffe, “Corporations are people, my friend.” (04:44)
• Bradley read Title 17, the USA Copyright act many times. (06:50)
• Bradley mentioned the court case, UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. v. Berkeley Software Design, Inc., which resulted in releasing the parts of BSD that could be Free Software. (12:27)
• Bradley mentioned the FSF's Free Software Definition (13:11)
• Bradley mentioned OSI's Open Source Definition (13:16)
• Apparently, the problem of categorization is called Categorization in Philosophy. (14:30)
• The issue of Open Source not being trademarked is discussed in this essay by Richard Stallman. (15:44)
• The basic categorizations of types of FLOSS licenses are copyleft and non-copyleft.
• Karen suggests reading GPLv2 and GPLv3. (39:31)
• Bradley made a crude drawing of the spectrum of licenses. (40:20)
• Bradley mentioned the The Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement (55:40)

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Bradley and Karen return, as promised, in 2018 (just barely)! They discuss the many non-FOSS and otherwise software-freedom-unfriendly licenses that have been promulgated in 2018.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Bradley and Karen discuss ideas for what to do with the oggcast going forward.

Segment 2 (07:49)

• Bradley mentioned the field of endeavor restriction in Open Source Defintion. (09:20)
• Bradley mentioned how badly Amazon treats its workers who pack boxes, which was widely reported this month (10:22).
• Bradley referenced that someone changed attempted to change a license on a project to prohibit use by USA border protection agents. This was the Lerna project, and Bradley wrote a blog post about it earlier this year. (12:14)
• Bradley mentioned the controversy about the new MongoDB license, the SS Public License, which Bradley also wrote a blog post about earlier this year (14:09)
• karen reports that many people at the Sustain OSS Conference were surprised that sustaining the idelogy of software freedom was something that people value. (27:10)

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Bradley and Karen discuss two additional permissions that can be used to “backport” the GPLv3 Termination provisions to GPLv2 — the Kernel Enforcement Statement Additional Permission, and the Red Hat Cooperation Commitment. A blog post on Conservancy's site summarizes the discussion on this show.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

• Bradley mentioned irregardless is not actually a word, but it does appear to be slang, which dates back to 1795! (03:23)
• The additional permission system was codified as a formal part of GPLv3, but are generally more informal under GPLv2. (05:24)
• Karen explained what the Principles of Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement. (07:49)
• Karen mentioned that Daleks terminate! (08:51)

Segment 1 (13:04)

• Bradley mentioned the inbound=outbound FOSS licensing contributor assent system (18:15)

Segment 2 (26:10)

• Karen and Bradley discuss the term “non-defensive” and what it means.
• Bradley mentioned the Twin Peaks lawsuit as a non-hypothetical case where the RHCC would not apply where GPL enforcement was used by Red Hat itself as a retaliation tactic. (29:23)
• The Kernel Enforcement Statement and the RHCC are available online.

Segment 3 (38:40)

The next episode of will be an interview with Molly De Blanc and recording of her keynote at CopyleftConf 2019

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The 2018-2019 school year saw allegations of cheating in college admissions in the “Operation Varsity Blues” case. Rising tuition costs and student debt levels have the attention of several 2020 presidential hopefuls. In this episode of the KUT podcast “Higher Ed,” KUT’s Jennifer Stayton and Southwestern University President Dr. Ed Burger discuss the state of...

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