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Hi everyone,

I'm designing a digital chip that will be fabricated. I have a HDL top module that includes several submodules inside it. I want to define the position of some of the submodules during the PnR so that later I can specify there positions in the Micrograph photo after the IC fabrication. When I perform the PnR using Innovus, I always got a layout shape where the submodules seems to be flatted. I wonder if there is a way to specify the placement of each submodule in my top module  (maybe in the tcl file) during the PnR so later I can define there positions in the micrograph photo. 

Thanks in Advance!

Hi everyone,

I'm new to using Innovus and I'm encountering an issue while trying to perform the "init_design" command. My goal is to perform the place and route. Here are the commands I'm using:

``
set init_verilog ./test.v
set init_top_cell TEST
set init_pwr_net {VDD VDD_2 VDD_3}
set init_gnd_net {VSS VSSA}
set init_lef_file { /home/laumecha/uw_openroad_free45/pdk/Drexel-ECEC575/Encounter/NangateOpenCellLibrary/Back_End/lef/NangateOpenCellLibrary.lef}
set init_mmmc_file {./viewDefinition.tcl}
init_design
```

However, I receive the following error:

```
#% Begin Load netlist data ... (date=06/04 12:07:50, mem=1478.7M)
*** Begin netlist parsing (mem=1439.0M) ***
Created 0 new cells from 0 timing libraries.
Reading netlist ...
Backslashed names will retain backslash and a trailing blank character.
**ERROR: (IMPVL-209):   In Verilog file './test.v', check line 16 near the text # for the issue: 'syntax error'.  Update the text accordingly.
Type 'man IMPVL-209' for more detail.
Verilog file './test.v' has errors!  See above.

*** Memory Usage v#1 (Current mem = 1439.027M, initial mem = 634.098M) ***
#% End Load netlist data ... (date=06/04 12:07:50, total cpu=0:00:00.0, real=0:00:00.0, peak res=1478.7M, current mem=1478.7M)
**ERROR: (IMPVL-902):   Failed to read netlist ./test.v. See previous error messages for details.  Resolve the issues and reload the design.
```

However, the file works perfectly in Genus.

It seems there is a syntax error in my Verilog file at line 16, but I'm not sure how to resolve it. Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

I am trying to remove the cdn_loop_breaker cells from the netlist. 
When I tried the below 2 things, genus synthesis tool removing the cdn_loop_breaker cells but while connecting the cdn_loop_breaker cell input to its proper connection, its somehow misleading the connections

Things i tried:
1.  remove_cdn_loop_breaker -instances *cdn_loop_breaker*
then i just ran remove_cdn_loop_breaker  comand without the -instances switch
2. remove_cdn_loop_breaker  
     
both of the above things are not providing the proper connections after removing the loop_breaker_cells

can anyone suggest the best possible workaround for this please?

Hi all,

I have been following the tutorial "Innovus Block Implementation with Stylus Common UI", version 23.1.

While I was doing the clock tree synthesis, the tutorial calls for a command

clock_opt_design

But my tool tells me this is a beta feature which needs to be enabled.

Warning: clock_opt_design requires beta feature innovusClockOptFlow enabled.

Can I ask how do I enable this beta feature?

My version of Innovus is v21.35-s114_1, is it because of the version incompatibility?

Many thanks

Hi all, while saving design, there is an error saying a net has tid problem. However the design is saved. Does anybody know how to resolve the Tid problem?

Hi all,

I'm trying to model the clock of a clock doubler. The doubler consists of a delay cell and an XOR gate, which generates a pulse on both the rising and falling edge of the input clock. I've created a simple module to evaluate this. In this case, DEL1 and XOR2 are standard library cells. There is a don_touch constraint on both library cells as well as on clk_d.

module top (
input wire clk,
output reg Q);

//Doubler
wire clk_d;
wire clk_2x;
DEL1 u_delay (.I(clk),.Z(clk_d));
XOR2 u_xor (.A1(clk),.A2(clk_d),.Z(clk_2x));

//FF for connecting the clock to some leaf:
always @(posedge clk_2x) Q<=~Q;

endmodule

My SDC looks like this:

create_clock [get_ports {clk}] -name clk_i -period 100
set_clock_latency -rise 0.1 [get_pins u_xor/Z]
set_clock_latency -fall 0.4 [get_pins u_xor/Z]
create_generated_clock -name clk_2x -edges {1 1 2 2 3} -source clk [get_pins u_xor/Z]

The generated clock is correctly generated but the pulse width is zero. I would be expecting that the pulse width is the difference between fall and rise latency but is not applied:

report_clocks:

report_clocks -generated:

clk_2x is disconnected from the FF after syn_generic. What can I do to model some minimum pulse width? Will innovus later on model this correctly with the delay of DEL1?

Hi all, 

I have made a custom cell in Innovus that I will be instantiating into a bigger block, which I will also be using Innovus to do the Place & Route. 

I understand that I can generate a *.lef file and a *.lib file using Innovus. However, I need to also create a *.db file (these format of files are often used in DC Compiler synthesis tool). 

Is there a way to create the *.db file from Innovus? Or, is there a tool that I can use to create this *.db file? 

Thank you for your time. 

I'm trying to write a generic piece of code that will return the layermap file location, with file name, for a variety of projects (which could potential have different layermap file naming conventions. The below code is what I've used to date, but this assumes the file name is xxxx.layermap. I can obviously do some string matching to find it, assuming the various files all contain some common characters. I thought I'd ask if there is a simpler way to find it, I know that this information is automatically loaded into the Xstream out gui, so maybe I can use the same approach to find it.

techLibName=techGetTechFile(cv)~>libName

techLibLayerMap=strcat(ddGetObj(techLibName)~>readPath "/" techLibName ".layermap")

Hi everyone. 

I'm very a new cadence user. I'm not good at using it and quite lost in finding a way to get the results. With the topic, I would like to ask you for some suggestions to improve my cadence skills.

I have some digital decision logic. Some are combinational logic, some are sequential logic that I would like to import or generate random input combination to the inputs of my decision logic to get the maximum, minimum, and average delay power dissipation and area when feeding the different input combination.

My logic has 8-bit, 16-bit, and 32-bit input. The imported data tends to be decimal numbers.

I would like to ask you:

- which tool(s) are the most appropriate to import and feed the different combination to my decision logic?

- which tool is the most appropriate to synthesis with different number of input? - I have used Genus Synthesis Solution so far. However with my skill right now I can only let Genus synthesize my Verilog code one setup at a time. I'm not sure if I there is anyway I can feed a lot of input at a time and get those results (min, max, average of delay, power dissipation and area)

- which language or scripts I should pick up to use and achieve these results?

-where can I find information to solve my problem? which information shall I look for?

Thank you so much for your time!!

Best Regards

Hello All,

How do we control the Always on buffering for a power domain called B in Power domain A.

here B-power domain nets going through A , hence tool is inserting Always on buffers.

How do we avoid this specific power domain ?

Thanks,
Bshaik

Hi! I've made some 1-point waveform "markers" that I want to overlay in my plots to aid visualization (with the added advantage, w.r.t. normal Viva markers, that they update location automatically upon refreshing simulation data).

For example, the plot below shows an spectrum along with two of these markers, which I create with the function "singlePointWave", and the Assembler output definitions also as shown below.

The problem is: as currently created and defined, Assembler is unable to plot these elements. I can send their expressions to the calculator and plotting works from there, BUT ONLY after first enabling the "Allow Any Units" in the target Viva subwindow.

Thus, I suspect Assembler is failing to plot my markers because they "lack" other information like axes units and so on. How could I add whatever is missing, so that these markers can plot automatically from Assembler?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Jorge.

P.S. I also don't know why, but nothing works without those "ymax()" in the output definitions--I suspect they are somehow converting the arguments to the right data type expected by singlePointWave(). Ideas how to fix that are also welcome! ^^

procedure( singlePointWave(xVal yVal)
    let( (xVect yVect wave)
        xVect = drCreateVec('double list(xVal));
        yVect = drCreateVec('double list(yVal));
        wave = drCreateWaveform(xVect yVect);
    );
);

I want to create sub tree of sub trees how can i do that?

I want to create another tree for the Sub parameter also.

Hello Community,

Is there any simple way how i can get the coordinates of all the shapes in a layout view?

Currently i'm flattening the layout, getting all the lpps from CV and using setof to get all the shapes of a layer and looping through them to get the coordinates.

Is there a way to do it without having to flatten the layout view and shapes merged or any other elegant way to do it if we flatten it?

Also, dbWriteSkill doesn't give output how i desired

Thanks,

Shankar

Hi,

I hope you are doing well.

I have designed and simulated a PA system in Cadence using high-level blocks, which include both ideal components and some defined with Verilog-A. My goal is to calculate the Bit Error Rate (BER) and Error Vector Magnitude (EVM) in the system. I am using an LTE source from RFLib, and everything functions correctly in the transient simulation.

To calculate these parameters, I intended to use envelope simulation. However, when I attempt to run the envelope simulation, I encounter convergence errors, which prevent it from working as expected.

Given this issue, I believe I need to work with transient data instead. Could you please advise on how to approach this in Cadence without exporting the data to MATLAB?

Thank you for your assistance.

Hi,

My query is regarding importing of layout.

After importing, we see that the imported transistor instances and vias are all referring to the library in which they are imported, instead of referring to the technology library.

Please let me know how we can refer them to the technology library.

Will surely provide more details if my query is unclear.

Thanks,

Mallikarjun.

Hello,

I would like to create a button for my form that prompts the user to click on a cellview and draw a rectangle bounding box, exactly like the one used in the Area and Density Calculator. Can someone please help me with this?

Thanks!

Beto

Hello Community,

I have encountered an issue that is a mystery to me and hope somebody could give me a clue about what is happening in Cadence and maybe even a solution?

I am running a test scripted in a SKILL file that sequentially opens two different projects with MC analyses and in between I get an error message box and also multiple logs in CIW with exactly the same text.

Both projects run a simulation with a call like this:

historyName = maeRunSimulation(?session sessionName ?waitUntilDone t)

After this the script closes the current project, opens the next project and executes the same line with maeRunSimulation() for the second project. Then immediately this error message happens, and also is logged repeatedly in the CIW window

The message box looks like this:

The logs I get in CIW:

nil
hiCancelProgressBox(_axlNetlistCreateProgressBar)
nil
hiCancelProgressBox(_axlUILoadForm)
nil
when(dwindow('axlDataViewessWindow1) hiMapWindow(dwindow('axlDataViewessWindow1)))
t
when(dwindow('axlRunSummaryessWindow1) hiMapWindow(dwindow('axlRunSummaryessWindow1)))
t
ERROR (ASSEMBLER-1600): Cannot find an active session named fnxSession0.
You can only modify an ADE Assembler session that is active.
Perhaps the session name was misspelled or has not yet been created.
Verify the session name matches an existing ADE Assembler session.

1>
ERROR (ASSEMBLER-1600): Cannot find an active session named fnxSession0.
You can only modify an ADE Assembler session that is active.
Perhaps the session name was misspelled or has not yet been created.
Verify the session name matches an existing ADE Assembler session.

*WARNING* hiDisplayAppDBox: modal dbox 'adexlMessageDialog' is already displayed!
ERROR (ASSEMBLER-1600): Cannot find an active session named fnxSession0.
You can only modify an ADE Assembler session that is active.
Perhaps the session name was misspelled or has not yet been created.
Verify the session name matches an existing ADE Assembler session.

*WARNING* hiDisplayAppDBox: modal dbox 'adexlMessageDialog' is already displayed!
ERROR (ASSEMBLER-1600): Cannot find an active session named fnxSession0.
You can only modify an ADE Assembler session that is active.
Perhaps the session name was misspelled or has not yet been created.
Verify the session name matches an existing ADE Assembler session.

Hi guys,

I see that inside VNC I can’t resize window boxes by mouse. While pressing the arrow at the box edge and dragging it nothing happens:

is it a bug, or setup change require?

Noted, it only happens when trying to resize window box from left and right side..

Thx

Hi All,

I'm using a code (abConvertPolygonToPath.ils) that I found in other posts to convert a rect object to a path object inside a pcell code, but when I try to run a DRC, the layout export fails due to a warning message, here is the log message

*WARNING* (DB-270001): Pcell evaluation for 18A_asaavedr/lay_mesh_BM0_BM4_3p6_3p6/layout has the following error(s):

*WARNING* (DB-270002): ("eval" 0 t nil ("*Error* eval: undefined function" abConvertPolygonToPath))

ERROR (XOASIS-231): Pcell evaluation failed for '18A_asaavedr/lay_mesh_BM0_BM4_3p6_3p6/layout' because the Pcell SKILL code contains either a syntax error or an unsupported XOasis function. Check the standard output or the Virtuoso log file for more information. Cadence recommends correcting the Pcell SKILL code to resolve the issue. However, to ignore these errors and continue the translation, you may use the 'ignorePcellEvalFail' option.

INFO (XOASIS-282): Translation Failed. '1' error(s) and '3' warning(s) found.

And when compile the code I get the following message:

*WARNING* defgeneric function already defined - abConvertPolygonToPath

I will aprreciate any help in how to waive this error, or fix it.

Thank you

Hi Team,

I am using the following command in my SKILL script to flatten the hierarchical layouts, it's working fine for all the instances and mosaics but not for techLib via's please help me with the command to use for flattening the techLib via.

dbFlattenInst( inst 2 nil)

dbFlattenInst( inst1 2 t t nil nil t t)

Regards,

MT.

Disappearing toolbar or docked menu

Is there a way for the toolbar or floating menu from disappearing when a cells tab is added to a window?

I have created a skill toolbar and it disappeared when I add another cell or tab to a window.

The only toolbars that stay are the ones I have defined in the Layout.toolbar file.

Do I have to add a trigger to keep the toolbars visible or not disappearing from the window?

Cadence version IC23.1-64b.ISR7.27

Paul

Hi,

I want to define a procedure that with @key, and I also want to restrict the variable's datatype, I tried with folloing but I received error in CIW

procedure(tt(handler @key str1 str2 "ssS")
  printf("handler: %L " handler)
)

tt('test)

The error is like: *Error* tt: argument for keyword ?str1 should be a symbol (type template = "ssS") at line 11 of file

Thanks,

James

Hi there

I am trying to make cross-probe btw layout and schematic view.

so when I execute the code in schematic using bindkey, the code will raise the layout view (hiRaiseWindow)

and then I want to descend to the same hierarchy as schematic. (geSelectFig, leHiEditInPlace)

But looks like current cellview still stays at schematic view.

I got this error msg, and when I print current cell view name at where I got this msg, it replys schematic.

*Error* geSelectFig: argument #1 should be a database object (type template = "d") - nil

is there any way to change the current cellview to layout view?

I also added this code, but didn't work.

geGetEditCellView(geGetCellViewWindow(cvId)) ;cvId is layout view

I don't want to close the schematic view, just want to move the focus or make geSelectFig works.

Thanks in advance.

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i want to read from text file two values  on two ports , i wrote  that  code, and i have that error that shown in the image below . and also the data in text file is shown as screenshot

module read_file (a,b);

electrical a,b;
integer in_file_0,data_value, valid, count0,int_value;

analog begin
@(initial_step) begin
in_file_0 = $fopen("/home/hh1667/ee610/my_library/read_file/data2.txt","r");

valid = $fscanf (in_file_0, "%b,%b" ,int_value,count0);
end

V(a) <+ int_value;
V(b) <+ count0;

end

endmodule

I am scripting gds streamin using 'strmin', which works fine so far.

But, as it apparently doesn't have an option to specify where the cds.lib file is, I have to run it from the directory where the cds.lib file is, or I guess I could create a dummy one to source that one.

Is there a way to tell strmin where the cds.lib file is?

Dear all, 

I'm trying to perform an LVS check using Calibre between a layout that was generated by Innovus and the initial netlist generated by Genus. However, once I hit Run LVS on Calibre, it reports the following warnings and recommends to stop the process:

Source netlist references but does not define more than 10 subckts:
DFD1BWP7T
DFKCND1BWP7T
DFKCNQD1BWP7T
DFKSND1BWP7T
DFQD1BWP7T
IND2D0BWP7T
INR2D0BWP7T
INVD0BWP7T
INVD2P5BWP7T
IOA21D0BWP7T
... (and more)

If I proceed the LVS process it shows lots of errors as shown in the following image:

Why Genus doesn't include the definition of those sub circuits in the generated netlist? Is this related to Flat/Hierarchy netlisting? 

I have included my Genus scripts as well as the generated netlist in the attachments (and here - if attachment don't work).

Many thanks,

Anas

Hi Cadence & forumers, 

I am running a conformal LEC with a flattened netlist against RTL. 

The run hang for 5 days at the "analyze abort" step which is automatically launched by the compare. 

The netlist is flattened at some levels so hierarchical flow which I tried didn't help much. The flattened/highly optimized netlist is from customer and the ultimate goal. How shall I proceed now? 

On the a side note, a test run with a hierarchical netlist from a simple DC "compile -map_effort medium" command finished after 1 day or so. 

Thank you! 

// Command: vpx compare -verbose -ABORT_Print -NONEQ_Print -TIMEstamp
// Starting multithreaded comparison ...
Comparing 241112 points in parallel.

// Multithreading Overhead: 38% Gates: 8501606/6168138
// Multithreaded processing completed.
================================================================================
Compared points PO DFF DLAT BBOX CUT Total
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Equivalent 1025 241638 30 75 21 242789
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Abort 0 124 0 0 0 124
================================================================================
Compare results of instance/output/pin equivalences and/or sequential merge
================================================================================
Compared points DFF Total
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Equivalent 204 204
================================================================================
// Warning: 512 DFFs/DLATs have 1 disabled clock port: skipped data cone comparison
// Resolving aborts by analyze abort...

I am not able to open 64bit version of simvision using the following :

simvision -64 -wav "path to wav"

This throws the error "  /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found"

I am only able to open it without the -64 option.

As a result I am not able to use the source browser feature since the simulation was run in 64 bit mode.

Need suggestion on how to resolve this. Thanks.

Hi,

I find there is a similar question 10 years ago and the answer is out of date, so I come to ask again.

I have compiled 2 different blocks in 2 different paths, using basic xrun -f xxxx.f, generated 2 xcelium.d folder.

Then I have to compile another block based on these 2, how can I link these 2 generated libraries while compiling the 3rd one?

Thanks

I got "no simulation data for marker" for each A<B, A=B and A>B markers. Simulation output doesn't show these outputs but the inputs shown. How can I solve this error?

hi

How can I tell the LEC tool to ignore a combination of Primary input bus in both Golden and revised.

For example in both Golden and revised there is 

input [3:0] data_in

I want LEC not to check the case that data_in[3:0] == 4'b1000

I was trying to remove the cdn_loop_breaker cells from the netlist. 
When I tried the below 2 things, it removing the cdn_loop_breaker cells but while connecting the cdn_loop_breaker cell input to its proper connection, its somehow misleading the connections

Things i tried:
1.  remove_cdn_loop_breaker -instances *cdn_loop_breaker*
then i just ran remove_cdn_loop_breaker  comand without the -instances switch
2. remove_cdn_loop_breaker  
     
both of the above things are not providing the proper connections after removing the loop_breaker_cells

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Ethernet 10Base-T1 

10BASE-T1S is defined under IEEE with 802.3cg. The S in 10BASE-T1S stands for a short distance. 10BASE-T1S uses a multidrop topology, where each node connects to a single cable. Multidrop topology eliminates the need for switches and, as a result, fewer cables/less cost. The primary goal of 10BASE-T1S is a deterministic transmission on a collision-free multidrop network. 10BASE-T1S cables use a pair of twisted wires. As per IEEE, at least eight nodes can connect to each, but more connections are feasible.    

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Few Main features of USB4 Interoperability with Thunderbolt  3 (TBT3) Systems

• Support for Bi-Directional Pins & Retimers: TBT3 Active Cables can contain two bidirectional Re-timers which have the capability to send AT Responses on its RX channel. Router connected directly to such Retimer needs to support A Router that is connected directly to a bidirectional Re-timer shall support reception of Transactions on both TX and RX channels. 

• Bounce Mechanism: This feature is used by Router to access the Register Space of a Cable Re-timer that can only be accessed by its Link Partner.
• Asymmetric Negotiation: The Router which connects with Cable Retimers needs to follow Asymmetric TxFFE in Phase 5 of Lane Initialization. 
• USB4 Link Transitions: In TBT3 mode, the configuration of two independent Single Lane Links can be used non-transient state or Single Lane Link just using the Lane1 Adapter.

Cadence has a mature USB4 Verification IP solution that can help in the verification of USB4 designs with TBT3. Cadence has taken an active part in the Cairo group that defined the USB4 specification and has created a comprehensive Verification IP that is being used by multiple members. If you plan to have a USB4-compatible design, you can reduce the risk of adopting new technology by using our proven and mature USB4 Verification IP. Please contact your Cadence local account team, for more details.

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