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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Alex Buie on Nov 08

Appreciate all the input everyone! It's helpful

Suresh - great pointer - it looks like they do. I didn't even notice it as
an option. I think this will be the fastest/easiest method for me in
webmail-land. Thanks for pointing that out!

*Alex Buie*Senior Cloud Operations Engineer

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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Suresh Ramasubramanian on Nov 08

It’s been decades since the last time I used this option.. and that was on an actual listserv run on lsoft.com, early
2000s.

These days just subscribed from a gmail because threaded posts, keyboard shortcuts for email actions and what not.
Makes it very easy to handle high traffic mailing lists.

--srs
________________________________
From: Alex Buie <abuie () cytracom com>
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2024 8:21:36 AM
To: Suresh...




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Willy Manga on Nov 09

Hi,

1. I locate the relevant message I want to reply

2. Delete everything before/after or with some mail client (like
Thunderbird) , I can just select the message and hit the 'reply' button.
It will include only the selected text

2. Copy exactly the subject line of the relevant message I want to reply
and if it doesn't yet contain a 'Re:' in front, I insert it.

And that is exactly what I'm doing with this...




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Bjørn Bürger via NANOG on Nov 11

Am 8. November 2024 20:14:34 MEZ schrieb Alex Buie <abuie () cytracom com>:

Speaking for myself:

- If possible, change your digest mode from text to MIME in your personal setting dialog of the mailman interface. This
leaves all relevant headers intact and you can directly reply to each individual message, preserving correct threading.
However, be aware, that some MUAs don't support this.

- If you need to stick with text digest,...




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Jay Acuna on Nov 11

On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 4:46 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists () gmail com>
wrote:

Yes.. Digest modes are generally unsuitable for active participation in a
mailing list.

I think the entire purpose of Digest mode is to minimize traffic for users
who are interested
solely in skimming through everything that was written days or weeks after
discussion
took place. You would not have any good or convenient way to pick an item
out of
a...




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Mike Hammett on Nov 11

I use dedicated email addresses for each mailing list that I'm on so that I can file accordingly and thus, don't need
to use digests.

-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

----- Original Message -----

From: "Alex Buie" <abuie () cytracom com>
To: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 1:14:34 PM
Subject: etiquette for replying to daily...




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by nanog on Nov 11

FWIW this did appear as a new thread in my client (Thunderbird).

Replying to the digest like this breaks the proper reply link in the
message headers, and relies on clients using heuristics like matching
the subject and quoted text, which not all clients will do.




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Tom Beecher on Nov 11

1. As others have said, digests generally don't work well for lists you
want to actively participate in.
2. No matter which methods or suggestions provided you may chose, there is
a 100% chance someone will gripe about how it breaks in their chosen mail
client , or messes with their personal email flow. So do what makes sense
to you and let the chips fall where they will. :)




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etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Matthew Petach on Nov 11

Isn't it better to *not* put the "Re: " in the subject line, so that the
reply
keeps the same threading as the original message?

Or am I just an outlier in doing it without the "Re: " addition in the
subject line?

Matt




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by William Herrin on Nov 11

Doesn't matter. Without the headers most MUAs don't thread it. In the
case of Willy's message, the header:

In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1731153601.10419.nanog () nanog org>

Caused my MUA to attempt to thread it with a digest message I never
received, hence it started a new thread.

Subject change is _usually_ used the other way: to recognize that a
change beyond adding "Re: " means that the thread has branched....




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Bryan Fields on Nov 12

The digest is a standard mailman 2.1 digest, which means you will get a MIME
email with multipart/mixed. The first part will be the topics listed and then
each part after that will be an individual message.

The easiest way to reply to this is to go into the individual message and open
it then reply. Most MUAs will include the right headers.

I've not messed with digests on NANOG in close to 5/6 years, but this was one
of the things I...




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Re: etiquette for replying to daily digests

Posted by Chris Hills on Nov 13

Another option is to locate the message with a usenet/newsgroup/nntp
client at nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.org.operators.nanog and reply from
there.

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UPDATES IN VERSION 2
====================

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION
=================

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Re: Xen Security Advisory 464 v2 (CVE-2024-45819) - libxl leaks data to PVH guests via ACPI tables

Posted by Andrew Cooper on Nov 12

Data are leaked into the PVShim guest, but it is the shim Xen
(exclusively) which has access to the ACPI tables.

The guest which has been shim'd can't architecturally access the leaked
data.

~Andrew




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Re: Xen Security Advisory 464 v2 (CVE-2024-45819) - libxl leaks data to PVH guests via ACPI tables

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