Karen and Bradley discuss Software Freedom Conservancy's announcement regarding its coordinated license compliance program.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Karen and Bradley discuss Software Freedom Conservancy's announcement regarding its coordinated license compliance program.

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Karen and Bradley interview Deb Nicholson of Open Invention Network, GNU MediaGoblin and Open Hatch.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Karen announced her pregnancy. (01:50)
• Bradley will be at OSCON, Karen might be, and Karen will be at GUADEC. Bradley will be at LinuxCon North America and LinuxCon Europe. (03:00)

Segment 1 (04:40)

• Deb Nicholson was previously on the show as Episode 0x25: FOSDEM 2012 Patents Panel. (06:00)
• Deb mentioned Linux System Definition, which is the OIN-published list of things that OIN members license their patents to each other on. (07:12)
• Deb and Bradley are debating Bradley's comment regarding Deb's points on the panel on 0x25. If you go back to listen to 0x25, the context for the comment they're debating starts around 38:00 in 0x25. (19:20)
• It's possible etymology of the verb “to harp” may indeed come from the musical instrument, not harpy. (31:00)
• Karen mentioned The Ada Initiative. (32:52)

Segment 2 (38:54)

Bradley and Karen talk about plans for upcoming shows.

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Philippe Laurent's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Open Licences before European Courts from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

Karen and Bradley mention there is one talk remaining after this one from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Segment 1 (03:04)

Philippe's slides are available from faif.us. Note: the slides are licensed differently than the show: they are CC-By-SA-3.0-Unported (rather than -USA).

Segment 2 (32:22)

• Bradley mentioned FSF France's involvement with the AFPA case. (37:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss FSF's announcement of FSF's white paper on Restricted Boot, which critiques Red Hat's approach to restricted boot for its Fedora distribution and Canonical, Ltd.'s approach to restricted boot for its Ubuntu distribution.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

• Karen mentioned it's useful that FSF avoids preloaded names. Bradley used FSF's criticism of the term “intellectual property” as an example of why it's important to avoid biased terminology. (02:22)
• Karen suggested that listeners may want to read FSF's white paper on Restricted Boot. (04:00)
• Bradley suggested also reading the Fedora statement and both Canonical, Ltd. statements. (04:37)
• Bradley and Karen mentioned the many blog posts Matthew Garrett made about UEFI are worth reading in sequence to learn more about this issue. (13:21)
• Bradley mentioned that FSF collaborated with the EFF on the broadcast flag issue. (25:40)
• Alan Cox made some critical posts toward Matthew and the Red Hat policy. (20:50)
• Bradley mentioned this Ancient Aliens from the History channel. (39:15)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Mike Linksvayer's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Creative Commons 4.0 licenses and other opportunities for FLOSS/free culture legal/policy intersections from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen suggest that you use the slides below when listening to Mike's talk.

Segment 1 (05:51)

Mike Linksvayer's slides for this talk are available in PDF format and in ODP format.

Segment 2 (33:43)

Segment 3 (34:25)

A special licensing message from Mike Linksvayer.

Segment 4 (35:09)

• Karen mentioned Bradley's favorite movie, It's a Wonderful Life.
• Bradley mentioned Asheesh Laroia, who appears to never blogged about his CC/credit-card-thief freenode confusion story. (48:00)
• Bradley mentioned Fontana's Copyleft.next project . (50:00)
• Bradley mentioned the ST:TNG episode, Unification, Part II, although he kept calling it Reunification during the episode. Please don't write in to complain; he realized the error after recording. (54:39)

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Karen and Bradley discuss OSCON and GUADEC.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley represents FSF on the GNOME Advisory Board. (02:20)
• Bradley points out it's very dangerous when you can buy voting rights of a 501(c)(3) by paying money, such as the structure of OSI. Karen notes that contribution-based membership works very well for GNOME. (03:50)
• Bradley is concerned about the future of OSI's license list now that votes in OSI are for sale. (04:30)
• Bradley received an O'Reilly Open Source Award at OSCON 2012. Bradley blogged an acceptance speech for the award. (08:50)
• The Python award and the Perl White Camel award is also given at OSCON. (12:35)
• Karen mentioned FLOSS Foundations, and asked if there was a meeting at OSCON. Bradley mentioned it had been primarily rolled into Jono Bacon's CLS conference. (15:10)

Segment 1 (17:56)

• Bradley wrote in a post about the GUADEC 2010 conference to note how welcoming the community was. Karen described GUADEC 2012 as very similar in nature. (21:25)
• Karen mentioned her husband Mike had a similar reaction to GUADEC 2012 that Bradley had to GUADEC 2010. (23:50)

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Karen and Bradley discuss recent coverage of GNOME by the technology press, and more generally issues and concerns with the technology press.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:44)

• Bradley couldn't find support for his claim about in the can, and Karen may be right.(01:15)
• Bradley mentioned that the GNOME Foundation negative press recently is akin to what Harry Reid did by stating rumors regarding Romney's taxes. (05:03)
• Karen mentioned the Debunking Handbook that Germán Póo-Caamaño mentioned to her. (06:30)
• Bradley mentioned the quote I do not think [that word] means what you think it means from The Princess Bride. (13:30)
• Karen mentioned the GNOME 15 year Anniversary Site. (17:22)
• Bradley mentioned Dave Neary's GNOME census, and quoted numbers from the census. (21:30)
• Bradley discussed Eazel, a company co-founded by Andy Hertzfeld. (23:03)
• Karen mentioned GNOME's Outreach Program for Women, in which Conservancy participates. (25:34)
• Karen mentioned an article that came out on the same day as this audcast. (30:30)
• Bradley mentioned that some research by evolutionary biologists suggests language may have developed for gossip (38:48). Bradley couldn't find evidence easily online for the 80% is gossip claim on the audcase, but did find an article talking about 65% of human communication is gossip.
• Bradley mentioned the television series, The Human Animal. (39:17)
• Bradley mentioned a thread he recently posted in on the BusyBox mailing list. (50:32)
• Bradley mentioned that there are many cognitive psychological biases. (51:11)

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Karen and Bradley interview Christopher Allan Webber of the GNU Mediagoblin project.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:31)

Karen and Bradley introduce the interview.

Segment 0 (00:56)

• Karen and Bradley interview their guest, Christopher Allan Webber of the GNU Mediagoblin project.
• GNU Mediagoblin is licensed under the Affero GPL, but does not require copyright assignment and the developers have no plans to seek a proprietary licensing business.
• Bradley mentioned this dent by Stephen Fry on identi.ca, but that was in fact not his last dent as Bradley said. (21:50)
• GNU Mediagoblin is working on a fundraising video and will start a new fundraising campaign soon.
• Chris discussed this comic about trolls that was part of the slides of Chris' OSCON talk. (27:07)
• Chris mentioned the Open Source Almost Everything essay from GitHub's founder. (28:30)
• Karen mentioned Mike Linksvayer's talk in FaiF 0x2E. (39:00)

Segment 1 (43:36)

GNU Mediagoblin will be launching a fundraising campaign soon. Check back here for details later!

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Matthew Garrett's talk, Linux in a UEFI Secure Boot World talk from LinuxCon North America 2012.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Bradley mentioned that people at LinuxCon North America 2012 were talking about this article, wherein it states 51% of survey respondents believe [bad] weather can impact cloud computing. Bradley and Karen pointed out all the many ways that it can, such as if your services come via satellite links. (02:10)
• Bradley mentioned Matthew's talk might be best listened to before our earlier FaiFCast 0x2d about UEFI and Restricted Boot, as Matthew's talk is a very good introduction to that material (07:01)

Segment 1 (08:43)

The slides from Matthew Garrett's LinuxCon North America 2012 talk, Linux in a UEFI Secure Boot World are available.

Segment 2 (51:35)

• Karen song a part of one of the OpenBSD songs, E-Railed (OpenBSD Mix). (01:00:35)
• Bradley mentioned Theo de Raadt's comments regarding restricted boot. (01:00:44)

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Karen and Bradley play and discuss Richard Fontana's LinuxCon North America 2012 talk, The Tragedy of the Commons Gatekeepers.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:33)

Bradley and Karen introduce Richard Fontana's talk.

Segment 1 (02:48)

Richard Fontana's slides are available online, and there is also a well-written summary of the talk available on LWN.

Segment 2 (47:15)

Karen and Bradley discuss Fontana's talk.

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Karen gives an update on the advocacy of software freedom for medical devices, while Bradley continually takes the show off-topic.

Show Notes:

• Bradley mentioned Jimmy Fallon's … And We're Back script.
• Barnaby Jack showed lethal attacks exist on wireless devices. (06:25)
• Karen previously gave a talk about her heart condition on the show. (07:13)
• Hugo Campos, who also works on this issue. (26:08)
• Bradley mentioned the Therac-25 software-related disaster. (29:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:33)

• Bradley mentioned the BPM for the human heart is to the Bee Gee's song, STayin' Alive. (01:55)
• FaiF's bandwidth is provided by OSU-OSL. Please donate to OSU-OSL. (09:50)
• Bradley and Karen discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case. (12:26)
• Bradley couldn't find quickly a full telling of the windings/SCO font thing, but this blog mentions it (29:34)

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Karen and Bradley discuss RMS' essay on FSF's website, Ubuntu SpyWare: What To Do, and Shuttleworth's Slashdot interview that responds somewhat to RMS' comments.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Karen and Bradley discuss RMS' essay on FSF's website, Ubuntu SpyWare: What To Do (08:50)
• Bradley mentioned how Fab discovered (and discussed on Linux Outlaws 280) how a search for “ter” in efforts to find a terminal window in Ubuntu yields [slightly NSFW] gives results for Rachel Ter Horst DVDs. (09:44)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post about Nokia's problems interfacing with Free Software communities. (14:50)
• Bradley and Karen discuss Shuttleworth's Slashdot interview (18:25).
• Bradley and Karen also briefly mentioned Jono Bacon's comments about RMS's essay and Jono's apology. (19:30)
• Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comments during his LinuxCon 2011 keynote. (20:14)
• Bradley mentioned Douglas Rushkoff's article, Teach U.S. kids to write computer code (29:30)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance and other issues related to copyright assignment.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:46)

• Bradley didn't want his words compared to the Ayn Rand's quote from an interview with Phil Donahue where she said I'm not going to die, it's just that world will end. (02:54)
• Bradley discussed the reaction to on 0x36 that occurred in this identi.ca thread. (04:20)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance. (11:15)
• Bradley pointed out that every other copyleft license allows for relicensing under newer versions automatically (i.e., they have an automatic -or-later ), and Karen asked whether Sun's CDDL does. Bradley checked later, Karen was correct that CDDL's later version clause (Section 4) is similar to the GPL policy. (23:00) However, Fontana wrote to us on IRC to say CDDL's license upgradeability clause is not entirely like GPL's. The GPL states that if no version number is specified, any version can be used. CDDL does not say this; it seems to assume that it will always be clear what version CDDL code will be distributed under, whereas GPL seems to assume otherwise.
• Bradley mentioned the interview he did with The H Online on GPL enforcement. (41:57)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss the GPL Compliance Panel from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

Karen and Bradley have some not-so-witty banter about the FOSDEM 2013 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Segment 1 (00:07:19)

The speakers on the panel are (in order of appearance):

• Tom Marble, introduces the panel.
• Karen Sandler, moderator.
• Alexios Zavras
• Richard Sands
• Bradley M. Kuhn
• Harald Welte

Segment 2 (01:02:51)

• Bradley mentioned the Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons, but incorrectly said he didn't have an actual name, which he does (Jeff Albertson) (01:05:30)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Till Jaeger's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled What is a derivative work under European Copyright Law?.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 2 (00:02:41)

The speaker's that you hear are:

• Tom Marble, introduces the talk, and asks one of the questions.
• Till Jaeger, who gives the talk

The slides for Till Jaeger's talk are available.

Segment 2 (00:49:11)

• Bradley and Karen discuss Till's talk.
• Clarence Thomas spoke the first time in the Supreme Court. Bradley said that he said it did not, but apparently he actually said he did not. (59:49)
• Bradley scanned in his Brussels airport train ticket that had his notes on it, where you can read noa push caa. (01:06:40)
• Bradley mentioned the phrase Elvis has left the building. (01:07:15)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gabriel Holloway's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled FOSS code goes in and never comes out: The Challenge of Sandboxed Proprietary Cloud Services.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:05:48)

The speaker's that you hear are:

• Gabriel Holloway, who gives the talk
• Till Jaeger asks the first question.
• A few other questions are asked, but we're unsure who the speakers are.
• Tom Marble, asks a question later.

Unfortunately, Gabe didn't provide us with slides.

Segment 2 (00:52:25)

• Bradley mentioned the Berne Convention on Copyright. (01:07:19)
• Karen mentioned Cooper Union and how they are in danger of running out of money for their full tuition scholarships. (01:10:00)
• Bradley looked but couldn't find the NPR story about terms of use. (01:19:37)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Simon Phipps' and Amanda Brock's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Should We Embrace App Stores?.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:03)

• Simon and Amanda used no slides during their talk.
• Amanda misquotes Bradley at 07:30. Bradley said: An unenforced copyleft is the moral equivalent of a permissive license, not that you give a license automatically not by enforcing. You can listen to FaiF Episode 0x38 to verify.

Segment 1 (00:49:35)

Bradley and Karen discuss the talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Pamela Chestek's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled How to Share a Trademark.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 0 (00:02:05)

Pam gave us slides, but it's all in one big SVG.

Segment 2 (00:55:10)

• The talk that Bradley mentioned was this talk that Karen gave at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2012; he was unable to find a recording. (57:04)
• Note that most of the time the word source was used in the talk and Karen's comments, it means origin, not source code. (01:05:55)
• Bradley mentioned this Planet Money story about the 5¢ coke. (01:21:37)

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Karen and Bradley discuss the sexist comment issue that occurred a few months ago at PyCon USA 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley and Karen previously discussed conference behavior back in Episode 0x04.
• Bradley had blogged a few years ago about the issues of sexism through the computer industry, including this study showing the glass ceiling in CS academics. (05:17)
• Bradley mentioned that he'd blogged in the past that proprietary software companies also have issues of sexism at conferences (05:58)
• Bradley mentioned the How to Perform Like a Porn Star CouchDB talk at a Ruby Conference (06:13)
• There is indeed a Project named PyCorn. (09:38)
• Bradley mentioned the Planet Money story about Online Pharmacies but he couldn't find the original audio of the longer piece that ends with the phrase Stay Shady, Internet (21:30)
• Bradley mentioned a quote about the human mind being the most dangerous thing because everything is in it, which is actually from Heart of Darkness by Joesph Conrad. (23:40)
• Bradley mentioned that a keynoter at LinuxCon Europe made sexist comments back in 2011. (30:02)
• Bradley and Karen encouraged listeners to promote the GNOME Foundation Outreach Program for Women (31:20)
• Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comment at LinuxCon North America in 2009 (32:02).

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gervase Markham's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Mozilla: Licensing In The Trenches.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• Bradley encouraged listeners to Conservancy's campaign for non-profit accounting software.
(02:10)
• Bradley mentioned his 2009 blog post encouraging people to donate to Free Software charities (02:50)
• Karen asked people to donate to the GNOME Foundation privacy campaign (04:11)

Segment 1 (00:04:57)

Gerv's slides from his FOSDEM 2013 talk can be downloaded from FOSDEM's website.

Segment 2 (00:51:48)

Bradley and Karen discuss Gerv's talk.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss The panel discussion on the GNU Affero General Public License from FOSDEM 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

• Bradley asked for donations again to Conservancy's NPO accounting software campaign and Karen asked for donations to GNOME's Privacy Campaign.

Segment 1 (00:04:50)

This is the Panel Discussion: GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 from FOSDEM 2013. The speakers, in the order their voices are heard, are Tom Marble (introduction), Richard Fontana (moderator), Bradley M. Kuhn, Eileen Evans, and Christopher Allan Webber.

Segment 2 (01:06:47)

• Bradley mentioned the phrase Give me convenience or give me death, which is from a title of the Dead Kennedys album he suggested applied to the selection of proprietary software (01:10:10)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' recent update to his Who does that server really serve? essay. (01:11:30)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post on doing VoIP encryption with Free Software. (01:14:04)
• Bradley mentioned his talk entitled The Affero GPLv3: Why It Exists & Who It's For? at the Southern California Linux Expo 11x. The slides are available and the sources for the slides are available. (01:17:30)

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Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in cars.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (00:01:43)

• Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in the automotive industry.
• Alison mentioned the Genivi Alliance, which is an industry trade association with some interest in “Open Source”.
• Alison presented a session at LibrePlanet about the Right to Repair act in Massachusetts. (00:14:30)
• Alison encouraged listens to get involved with Right to Repair and the Massachusetts Right to Repair.

Segment 2 (00:36:09)

• Karen moderated a panel at the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2013 on Automotive issues (37:12)

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Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

Show Notes:

Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (00:03:03)

Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin.

Segment 2 (00:25:23)

• Karen and Bradley wrap up the discussion about 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6).
• Bradley referenced this post which ocurred in this thread about Linus saying Greg KH is a door-mat. (26:36, 34:55)
• The OSCON session that Bradley chaired was Non-Profits Organizations for FLOSS Projects: There Is No Place Like Home, and the slides are available. (33:21)

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Jean-Baptiste Kempf's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Relicensing libVLC and VLC modules from GPL to LGPL.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:28)

• The plural of hiatus appears to be hiatukset, but hiatuses is the proper English. (01:50)
• Bradley adopted two dogs from a shelter. They like kongs (02:30)
• Bradley's wife has a blog with pictures of their dogs. (04:30)

Segment 1 (00:05:52)

Jean-Baptiste Kempf slides are available for this talk.

Segment 2 (01:03:20)

• Bradley had written a a blog post about the VLC relicensing. (01:03:48)
• Bradley mentioned a an article in The Onion about pugs known health problems (01:15:47)
• Karen mentioned The Last GUADEC blog post.

Segment 3 (01:21:00)

Bradley and Karen discussed the release of the ExFAT Samsung source code.

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Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss John Sullivan's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled State of the GNUnion.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:33)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:01:58)

The slides for John's talk are available, and the source of those slides is available too.

Segment 1 (00:54:31)

• Bradley mentioned RMS' essay, Who Does That Server Really Serve? (01:08:55)

Segment 2 (01:14:53)

Private Internet Access became a new GNOME Advisory Board Member.

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Bradley and Karen explain why they've been gone for so long, and then discuss the recent Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:31)

• Karen is now Executive Director of Conservancy and Bradley is President and Distinguished Technologist. (03:01)
• Bradley will be working extensively on the NPO Accounting Project. (03:40)

Segment 1 (00:09:37)

• Karen says the Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision is not an engaging read, but the lower court decision was. (09:50)
• Karen said: You're out of your element, Donny! (12:38)
• Karen mentioned a tweet from the EFF (15:23)
• Bradley mentioned his older blog post about the previous decision (16:48)
• Karen incorrectly said we never recorded a show on the previous decision, but we did indeed discuss the previous Oracle v. Google decision in , which Bradley and Karen discussed in Episode 0x35 (18:53)
• Karen and Bradley explained what an affirmative defense, arguments in the alternative, and merger doctrine. (21:03)
• Bradley mentioned the Apache Software Foundation is now publicly more against copyleft software than proprietary software, and that such position is unreasonable, unlike the OpenBSD position that copyleft and proprietary software are equally bad: a position Bradley disagrees with but agrees is consistent, reasonable moral stance. (38:40)
• Bradley mentioned his discussions with Mark J. Wielaard of the Classpath project (52:20)
• Bradley and Karen ask people to doante to Conservancy.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the details, what to worry about, and what the usual duties are when serving on a Board of Directors for a USA non-profit. The discussion is primarily about 501(c)(3) organizations, but at the end they spend some time discussing 501(c)(6) organizations as well.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:44)

• An image of Alfie chewing on the antler (01:22)
• Karen is running for the GNOME Foundation Board of Directors. (05:15)
• Bradley once criticized the CNRI OPEN SOURCE LICENSE AGREEMENT (used for parts of Python), because it is governed by the laws of a place that doesn't exist. (06:48)
• Bradley mentioned a Planet Money episode that talked about it's “too easy” to incorporate in Delaware (23:50)

Segment 1 (00:32:25)

• Bradley and Karen discuss various additional things about being on a Board of Directors, including why and how you might be able to serve on one.
• Bradley and Karen discuss the requirements for getting on a 501(c)(6) Board like Linux Foundation (55:30)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:37)

• Bradley mentioned the Planet money t-shirt story (03:04)
• Bradley mentioned he buys Union made sweat pants (04:42)

Segment 1 (00:06:48)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 2 (00:07:20)

This segment is the talk, Legally Cementing Licences in Legislation: Two Law Merchant Models for Free Software Licences by Maureen O’Sullivan given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013. You can follow along with the slides.

Segment 3 (00:50:55)

• Bradley mentioned a talk he gave on 2005-03-12 at UC Irvine to a workshop of academics meeting about the research area of Computing Communities. Bradley still has some email archives regarding this, but can't find any online link to the workshop (URLs in the emails are all dead) or a recording of his talk. (58:52).
• As Bradley mentioned, ESR self-identifies as a gun nut. (01:00:19)
• Bradley mentioned FaiF 0x3A, which had Gabriel Holloway's talk (01:03:27)

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Bradley and Karen discuss why software freedom as a political, social and moral issue is important to each of them personally.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley mentioned that he used to frequently give talks on why software freedom is important to him. There are available on FSF's Audio/Video website three different recordings of that talk, usually titled Software Freedom and the GNU Generation. (01:28)
• Bradley's first distribution was SLS. (18:20)
• Bradley mentioned that OpenStack was denied 501(c)(6) trade association status by the IRS. (37:56)
• Karen mentioned the Cooper Union law suit. (48:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, copyleft-next: an Introduction by Richard Fontana given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (05:37)

The slides Fontana's talk on copyleft-next are available.

Segment 2 (01:06:51)

• Bradley mentioned the issue of Noam Chomsky's points on concision (01:13:23).
• Bradley mentioned the anti-GPL keynote by Tom Preseton-Werner of Github at OSCON 2013. (01:14:53)
• Bradley and Karen discussed the Harvey Birdman Rule. (1:27:45)
• Bradey mentioned a comment he posted about CHR-governed policy meetings. (01:29:00)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Why the free software phone doesn't exist by Aaron Williamson given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (04:06)

Aaron's slides area available.

Segment 2 (56:41)

• Bradley mentioned dakota imaging where he used to work. (1:02:15)
dacotag imaging
• Karen mentioned Aaron's OSCON 2010 talk (but we incorrectly said it was 2009). (1:04:35)

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Bradley and Karen discuss Contributor Licensing Agreements, which pulls material from Bradley's blog posts on the subject.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley mentioned FSF's copyright assignment process. (05:50)
• Bradley mentioned RMS' essay regarding what you should do if a company asks you to assign copyright on Free Software. (14:00)
• Open Stack is reconsidering their CLA.
• Bradley mentioned again that goofy Eclipse contributor poster. (27:22)

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Bradley and Karen host a panel discussion on CLAs with Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce the panel discussion.

Segment 1 (01:28)

• The panel guests are Van Lindberg and Richard Fontana.
• Van quoted from the Apache Corporate CLA. (40:55)

Segment 2 (48:17)

• Bradley and Karen wrap up the discussion.
• Bradley mentioned the AKG C1000S which we use to record the oggcast. (50:40)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the talk, Copyleft vs. Permissive vs. Contributor License Agreements: A Veteran’s Perspective by Simo Sorce given at FOSDEM 2013 on Sunday 3 February 2013.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Simo's talk.

Segment 1 (00:03:02)

The slides from Simo's talk are available, if you want to follow along

Segment 2 (00:59:50)

• Bradley menitoned his blog post about CLA's on Conservancy's website. (01:00:10)

Segment 3 (01:10:22)

Bradley and Karen are still trying to decide what to do about the FOSDEM 2014 talks.

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Karen Sandler interviews Lennart Poettering and Alan Day during the GNOME Asia Summit 2013. Bradley and Karen comment on this interview.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen introduce Karen's interview with Lennart Poettering and Alan Day.

Segment 1 (02:06)

Karen interviews Lennart Poettering and Alan Day about Lennart's Sandboxed Applications for GNOME talk at GNOME Asia Summit 2013.

Segment 1 (35:24)

• Bradley mentioned his comment during the GPLv3 process regarding the Ty Coon issue. (41:20)

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Bradley and Karen discuss the key differences between 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6) organizations in the USA, and discuss recent refusals by the IRS to grant such statuses to Open Source and Free Software orgs.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

• Bradley mentioned the 501(c)(3) vs. 501(c)(6) difference came up on FaiF 0x41. (03:35)
• Bradley mentioned that in 501(c)(3) status from the IRS is based on receiving some status governed by §170(b)(1)(A) of the tax code. (Most Free Software charities, such as Conservancy, are classifed as non-profit charities under §170(b)(1)(A)(vi).) (05:10)
• Bradley mentioned this issue had been discussed on FLOSS Foundations' mailing list (05:50)
• Bradley discussed that at the OSCON 2013 tutorial, Community Foundations 101, most of the 501(c)(6) representatives who spoke argued incorrectly that the differences between 501(c)(3)'s and 501(c)(6)'s were not substantive. (10:50)
• Karen referenced how the TV show Silicon Valley parodies the irony of for-profit software companies claiming they make the world a better place. (11:58)
• Bradley mentioned he was inspired by Michael Moore in his work on Free Software. (15:02)
• Bradley mentioned Karen's talk called Identity Crisis (15:21)
• Karen mentioned that open source was on the list of items the IRS gave additional scrutiny. (16:51)
• Bradley mentioned a blog post by Jim Nelson where Yorba's rejection was discussed; Yorba's 501(c)(3) application was previously discussed on was discussed on 0x1C, and covered in many other places. (17:46)
• Karen wrote a blog post about why she isn't worried for Conservancy's 501(c)(3) status at this time. (18:30)
• Bradley mentioned that IRS decisions don't make precedent, and if there's a dispute, it would go to USA Tax Court (19:00)
• Mozilla Foundation's odd hybrid for-profit/non-profit model was audited by the IRS, and Mozilla Foundation settled with the IRS. (20:22)
• Open Stack Foundation was initially denied 501(c)(6) status, as reported on Mark McLoughlin's blog. (25:10)
• Bradley promised links to both Yorba's 501(c)(3) denial letter from the IRS and Open Stack Foundation's 501(c)(6) denial letter from the IRS. (The response to the IRS from OpenStack, written by DLA Piper, OpenStack Foundation's law firm, is also available, too. (27:15)
• Bradley and Karen discussed Board of Directors meetings in FaiF 0x45: I'm Board (31:40)
• Bradley mentioned the How fresh stays fresh campaign, which includes the Nature's Pause Button television commercials by the American Frozen Food Institute, which is a 501(c)(6) organization. It's FY 2012 Form 990 is the most recent on available.
• Bradley also mentioned the Beef: It's What's For Dinner advertisting campaign that has existed for decades in the USA, which is sponsored by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, Inc. which is a 501(c)(6) as well. It's FY 2012 Form 990 is the most recent on available.
(35:40)
• Bradley further mentioned the Pork: the other white meat advertising campaign, which has also existed for decades but is now called the Pork: Be Inspired campaign, seems a bit more dubious in its non-profit existence. It appears to be funded by the National Pork Board Foundation, which is ostensibly a 501(c)(3) but has no assets, revnue nor expenses, and appears to be a front for an org called the America's Pork Producers / Pork Checkoff, which appears to be some quasi-govermental agency related to pork (in other words, it's pork for pork). More research would probably be needed to figure out better what's going on here with regard to non-profit status, but it seems that unlike the Beef ads, which are clearly funded by a 501(c)(6), this campaign is funded by a separate legislation, presumably unrelated to §501(c). There is, BTW, also, a 501(c)(5) called the National Pork Producers Council, which appears to be where the big money is (— not surprisingly — 501(c)(4)'s and 501(c)(5)'s often make 501(c)(6)'s and 501(c)(3)'s look tiny by comparison). (36:13)

Segment 1 (39:43)

Conservancy and OSI jointly announced a working group on IRS applications and denials. (40:49)

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Bradley and Karen discuss and criticize comments made by Linus Torvalds at his Q&A during DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen discuss the Q&A with Linus Torvalds at DebConf 2014 in Portland, OR on 29 August 2014. (01:09)

Segment 1 (04:30)

• Ryan Lortie asked about an offensive public statement Linus Torvalds made on 6 July 2012. (05:04)
• Bradley mentioned that Linus Torvalds argued Red Hat was kowtowing to Microsoft using offensive language. (07:57)
• Karen mentioned that Linus called GNOME an unholy mess. (19:05)

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Note: Episode 0x5A was released out of sequence, but they are in the order of release date on faif.us (rather than numerical order).

Karen and Bradley discuss connections between the so-called “Gamergate” controversy and how it relates to the Free Software community and a few obvious legal issues.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

• Karen asked if Bradley had heard of the Gamergate situation. (01:30)
• Matthew Garrett wrote a blog post regarding this topic entitled Actions have consequences (or: why I'm not fixing Intel's bugs any more) (10:23)
• Mathew was attacked on LKML about this blog post (10:50)
• Lennart Poettering also wrote an essay recently about aggression and attacking people in Free Software communities. (12:12)
• Karen mentioned the harassment Kathy Sierra faced in the late 2000s. (13:00)
• Bradley called out Linux Foundation to ask why they tacitly support the bad behavior by its employees and others in the Linux Project (14:35, 31:10)
• Bradley mentioned that Antti Aumo in his LinuxCon Europe 2011 keynote, said that a great thing about the Internet of Things is that you can put a lock on your fridge when the wife's on a diet. (16:32)
• Bradley mentioned the Eddie Murphy's Saturday Night Live skit, White Like Me, which according to the transcript, originally aired on 1984-12-15 on SNL. (24:45)
• Bradley mentioned FaiF 0x13, which discussed torts and why they're important. (29:50)
• Bradley wrote a blog post about Bradley mentioned his blog post about John Oliver's discussion of the Miss America Pageant (43:30)
• Bradley suggested that Intel should have instead given the Gamasutra money to Society of Women Engineers Scholarship fund. (45:30)
• Karen mentioned the statement Intel published a statement regarding the situation. (47:10)

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Karen and Bradley announce Conservancy's DMCA filing and Conservancy and FSF's joint launch of the copyleft.org project, and then discuss Eileen Evans' FOSDEM 2014 talk, entitled Licensing Models and Building an Open Source Community.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Conservancy file a DMCA petition regarding so-called “Smart TVs”. (02:00)
• Bradley mentioned the magic marker that was as circumvention technique under DMCA. Here's an amusing joke press release about the issue. (03:10)
• There isn't much documentation online of Bruce Perens live DMCA violation, but this article appears to be the main one on the subject, and there is also this interview (06:46).
• Bradley and Karen talked about the joint FSF/Conservancy copyleft.org announcement. (09:10)
• Bradley first pulled together the materials for copyleft.org for FSF's CLE seminars, particularly the one in March 2014. (10:00)
• Karen noted that Conservancy donated the time to write up a pristine example of good complete, corresponding source code for a GPL'd product. (11:30)
• Bradley discussed the incorrect GPLv2§2(a) violation accusations that some made against Red Hat regarding its changes to its publication of RHEL's Linux fork. (12:00)
• Karen and Bradley encouraged listeners to submit talk proposals for the FOSDEM 2015 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom (15:03)

Segment 1 (19:38)

This is a recording of Eileen Evans' FOSDEM 2014 talk, entitled Licensing Models and Building an Open Source Community. If you'd rather watch the video, which includes the slides from her talk, it's available on FOSDEM's site.

Segment 2 (46:40)

• Bradley and Karen discuss Eileen's talk.
• Bradley mentioned the OpenStack CLA fight, which was covered in a panel discussion on FaiF 0x4B. (56:16)
• Karen mentioned the 501(c)(6) issues that OpenStack Foundation has faced, which were discussed already on FaiF 0x4E. (56:34)

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Karen and Bradley interview Richard M. Stallman on the occasion of the 30th Anniversary of the GNU Project.

Note: Episode 0x5B was released out of sequence, but they are in the order of release date on faif.us (rather than numerical order by episode number).

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Note: Episode 0x5B was released out of sequence, but they are in the order of release date on faif.us (rather than numerical order by episode number).

Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

Segment 1 (01:20)

• This segment is an interview with Richard M. Stallman on the occasion of GNU's thirtieth anniversary.
• RMS mentioned the LibreJS project. (26:10)

Segment 2 (33:58)

• Bradley and Karen discuss the interview.
• Bradley mis-rememered, RMS said he would start on Thanksgiving in the original announcement (38.40).

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Bradley and Karen play and discuss Pam Chestek's talk entitled Why Licenses Requiring Use of Trademarks are Non-Free that she gave on Sunday 2 February 2014 at FOSDEM 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:34)

• You can donate now to send Producer Dan Lynch to a Free Software conference. Donations will be made to Conservancy and any proceeds raised beyond the amount needed to send Dan to a conference will support Conservancy generally. (05:30)
• Dan will of course need to follow Conservancy's travel policy since Conservancy will fund his travel. (06:50)
• Bradley discussed the backstory on the Groupon attempt to steal GNOME's name. GNOME Foundation had to go public to raise funds to fight Groupon (10:05)

Segment 1 (00:13:26)

Pam Chestek gives a talk entitled Why Licenses Requiring Use of Trademarks are Non-Free. You can watch the video instead of listening to our audio and follow along with Pam's slides.

Segment 2 (01:00:37)

• Bradley mentioned Pam's talk from the previous year, which was played on 0x3C. (01:01:32)
• Bradley mentioned that GPLv3§7 allows for removal of additional restrictions that abuse that clause of GPLv3. (01:04:24)

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Bradley and Karen play and discuss

Stefano Zacchiroli's talk entitled Legal issues from a radical community angle that he gave 12:00 European/Central time on Sunday 2 February 2014 at FOSDEM 2014.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

Segment 1 (00:02:38)

Stefano Zacchiroli's talk entitled Legal issues from a radical community angle . You can watch the video instead of listening to our audio and/or follow along with Zach's slides.

Segment 2 (00:53:17)

• Please note: Bradley and Karen recorded these comments before the init system coupling referendum completed, which is why Karen and Bradley don't discuss it. However, their comments about the Debian democratic process are highly relevant to the recent vote. Also, Bradley discussed his views on that specific issue as a guest co-host on Linux Outlaws, Episode 368.
• Bradley and Karen discussed SPI as Debian's fiscal sponsor and used a few terms like grantor/grantee (01:01:20)

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Bradley and Karen discuss what plagiarism is (or isn't) and how it interacts with copyleft licenses.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:37)

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• You can also donate to support Software Freedom Conservancy, where Bradley and Karen work, by becoming a supporter.
• Karen mentioned her blog post about the supporter program. (00:08:30)
• Bradley mentioned his blog post about the supporter program as well. (00:09:30)

Segment 1 (00:16:16)

• Bradley and Karen pick up on a topic original discussed in Segment 1 of FaiF 0x02. (00:16:50)
• Bradley discussed the Laurie Stearns' article from the California Law Review, entitled Copy Wrong: Plagiarism, Process, Property, and the Law (00:23:50)
• Bradley mentioned The GNOME Foundation Copyright Assignment Guidelines that he co-authored. (00:28:05)
• Bradley mentioned the Doris Kearns Goodwin Plagiarism controversy, and how it would have been simply redressed if the material she reused had been copylefted. (00:29:26)
• Karen mentioned that Flickr made different policies for CC-BY-SA'd works when selling printed versions. (32:30)
• Bradley mentioned that even software freedom advocates just comply with the copyleft licenses and don't work collaboratively, particularly during hostile forks, using Conservancy's Kallithea project as an example. (00:35:25)
• Bradley reiterated a point he made in FaiF 0x08, where he discussed that Linus Torvalds switched to GPL for Linux because he realized non-commercial restrictions weren't appropriate. (00:37:50)
• Bradley mentioned the hostile fork of GCC called egcs. The H-Online years later wrote a long article that discussed the egcs fork egcs fork. (00:39:46)
• Bradley mentioned that plagiarism is ultimately about attribution, and modern DVCS systems makes attribution easy and renders plagiarism impossible (if DVCS logs are accurate). (00:44:15)
• Bradley mentioned that he continually has learned the lesson that if you let your employer keep copyright, you lose everything you had when you switch employers (if the work isn't copylefted). (00:47:00)
• Bradley discussed the methods of attribution required in GPLv3. (00:50:05)
• Bradley mentioned that copyright notices are the primary method of attribution in copyleft licenses, and even non-copyleft ones too. (00:53:19)
• Karen discussed the attribution requirements in text of CC-BY-SA 4.0. (00:53:49)
• Bradley wants to do a whole FaiF show about how CC-BY-SA may not be a true copyleft since it has no source code requirement (00:54:40)
• Bradley mentioned the “fake name” that film directors use when they wish to disavow a work they aren't happy with. The name is, in fact, Alan Smithee, and indeed the 1984 film Dune lists Smithee as a director even though David Lynch is known publicly to be the director. (00:58:40)
• Bradley mentioned the unfair accusations against Red Hat when they stopped publishing their internal Linux Git repository and instead released a more standard ChangeLog. (01:05:30)

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Bradley and Karen interview Carol Smith, Programs and Open Source Community Manager of Google Summer of Code about the program and its policies and procedures.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Bradley encourages those who attend FOSDEM 2015 to attend sign up to attend the Supporter Night Event on 30 January 2015 in Brussels, Belgium.

Segment 1 (00:50:11)

More Show notes for this one coming soon!

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Bradley and Karen interview Nick Coghlan, who works onn development and test infrastructure for Red Hat and is heavily involved with the Python community.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:00:35)

Bradley and Karen interviewed Nick Coghlan who works for Red Hat and contributes to various Open Source and Free Software projects such as Python. Nick discussed his work on the infrastructure team at Red Hat, and his advocacy of Kallithea for use for the CPython project.

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the VMware lawsuit that Software Freedom Conservancy is funding.

Show Notes:

• Bradley and Karen discuss the lawsuit that Christoph Hellwig filed. (07:37)
• Karen mentioned her LibrePlanet keynote about the VMware lawsuit. (21:30)
• Bradley's talk at LinuxConf Australia 2015, Considering The Future of Copyleft, is available online. (22:04)
• Bradley mentioned the discussion on pump.io about NPR fundraisers. (24:23)
• Bradley mentioned a Debian 8 release party at LinuxFest Northwest, which Microsoft didn't invite him to, since he wasn't willing to give Microsoft his contact info for marketing purposes. (29:16)
• Karen and Bradley promoted the Conservancy supporter program (31:40)

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Free as in Freedom host Christopher Allan Webber interviews Karen Sandler and Bradley Kuhn about their work on copyleft and at Software Freedom Conservancy. You can become a Supporter of this work!

Show Notes:

• Bradley mentioned Cygnus Solutions, ultimately acquired by Red Hat, which was an early for-profit supporter of copylefted projects.
• Bradley and Karen discussed the VMware lawsuit.
• Chris Webber wrote this blog post in response to a Shane Curcuru, who is VP of Brand Management at the Apache Software Foundation, anti-copyleft talk at OSCON 2015. Shane's talk is consistent with Apache Software Foundation's historical and recent anti-copyleft positions (12:23)

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Bradley and Karen discuss Conservancy's Debian Copyright Aggregation project. (Note: While it was released just after DebConf16, this episode was recorded well before DebConf16; the discussions about DebConf refer to DebConf15.)

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Note: While it was released just after DebConf16, this episode was recorded well before DebConf16; the discussions about DebConf refer to DebConf15.

• Bradley mentioned his talk at DebConf. This was recorded before DebConf 16, so Bradley is talking about DebConf 15, which was summarized in this blog post and his keynote from DebConf15. A video of that talk is available. (02:00)
• Bradley mentioned this bug about the copyright notice on the Debian website (07:47)
• Ian Jackson asked about bequeathing copyright at Bradley's talk. (15:45)

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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Bradley and Karen discuss the plan for restarting Free as in Freedom and plans for episodes to come.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:36)

• Bradley said in the before time — in the long long ago, which is a reference to the South Park parody of the ST:TOS episode, Miri (01:30)
• Bradley mentioned when Karen Sandler left the GNOME Foundation and took over Bradley's old job as Executive Director of Conservancy. (02:20)
• Karen mentioned that Bradley used to be Executive Director of the Free Software Foundation, a position now held by John Sullivan. (03:25)
• Dan blogged about his illness, details of scheduling surgery, which he occurred successfully. (10:28)
• Karen mentioned the Conservancy Supporter program discussed in detail on Episode 0x57. (12:40)
• Bradley mentioned the short lived Jon Masters Linux Kernel Mailing List Summary Podcast. (14:45)
• Karen and Bradley discussed Video Killed the Radio Star by the Buggles, and Bradley attempted to mention this version which he likes better. (17:36)
• Bradley mentioned Kantian Ethics (20:05)
• Bradley mentioned the Portlanda skit, Rent it Out from S04E02 (20:24)
• Karen mentioned WellDeserved: A Marketplace for Privilege (20:38)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on on Twitter and and FaiF on Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).