Hello All:

I am looking for help on the following, as I am new to Cadence tools [I have to use Cadence Innovus for Physical Design after Logic Synthesis using Synopsys Design Compiler, using Nangate 45 nm Open Cell Library]: while using Cadence Innovus, I would need to select a few specific nets to be routed through a specific metal layer. How can I do this on Innovus [are there any command(s)]? Also, would writing and sourcing a .tcl script [containing the command(s)] on the Innovus terminal after the Placement Stage of Physical Design be fine for this?

Secondly, is there a way in Innovus to manipulate layout components, such as changing some pin placements, wire directions (say for example, wire direction changed to facing east from west, etc.) or moving specific closely placed cells around (without violating timing constraints of course) using any command(s)/.tcl script? If so, would pin placement changes and constraining some closely placed cells to be moved apart be done after Floorplanning/Powerplanning (that is, prior to Placement) and the wire direction changes be done after Routing? 

While making the necessary changes, could I use the usual Innovus commands to perform Physical Design of the remaining nets/wires/pins/cells, etc., or would anything need modification for the remaining components as well?

I would finally need to dump the entire design containing all of this in a .def file.

I tried looking up but could only find matter on Virtuoso and SKILL scripting, but I'd be using Innovus GUI/terminal with Nangate 45 nm Open Cell Library. I know this is a lot, but I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks in advance.

Riya

Hi,

I have synthesized a verilog code. When performing the pnr in innovus it is showing the error "Instance g5891__718 (similar for other) of the cell AND2_X6 has no physical library or has wrong dimension  values (<=0). Check your design setup to make sure the physical library is loaded in and attribute specified in library are correct.

When importing synthesized netlist in virtuoso then it says " Module AND2_X6, instantiated in the top module decoder, is not defined. Therefore the top module decoder will be imported as functional."

Please help what's going on here? 

Achieving optimal power transfer in RF PCBs hinges on meticulously routed traces that meet specific impedance requirements. Impedance matching is essential to ensure that traces have the same impedance to prevent signal reflection and inefficient pow...(read more)

The vision manager is good tool for routing check. but no quickly or effective  tool to fix or optimize this  problems to be optimized.

For example, parallel Gap less than preferred, min seg/Arc length,uncoupled diff-pair segs，and so on.

I only know use spread between voids to fix the non-optimized segs. in fact it is inefficient.

the parallel gap less than preferred is only to slice evry trace, its inefficient.

If i set the paraller gap less than 50um, Is there any tool to quickly fix these problems（gap less than 50um）?

For other problems，i can use tool to quickly fix the min seg/Arc length，uncoupled diff pair segs，accoding to select by polygon or select  by windows.

Hello~

As the following circuit shows, VCC+5V_USB is the 4^th power source, connecting the output of power management of diode.There are 3 5V input in the input port of LTC4417.

It’s normal when VCC+5V_USB prodive power with other circuit. However, if I cup VCC+5V_FIRST,VCC+5V_SECOND,VCC+5V_THIRD, 5V voltage will occurred in the VCC+5V_FIRST,VCC+5V_SECOND,VCC+5V_THIRD.

The LTC4417 PDF

Is this phenomance normal ?

Please kindly give me some advice ! Thanks.

As the title suggests I am unable to perform design sync between OrCAD Capture and Allegro. When I add a layout and try to sync to it I am given ERROR(ORCAP-2426): Cannot run Design Sync because of errors. See session log for error details.

Session Log

[ORPCBFLOW] : Invoking ECO dialog.
INFO(ORNET-1176): Netlisting the design
INFO(ORNET-1178): Design Name:
C:USERSDDOYLEDOCUMENTSCADENCEBOARDSREMOTE POWER DEVICECAPTUREREMOTE_POWER_DEVICE.DSN
Netlist Directory:
c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegro
Configuration File:
C:CadenceSPB_17.4 ools/capture/allegro.cfg
pstswp.exe - pst - d "C:USERSDDOYLEDOCUMENTSCADENCEBOARDSREMOTE POWER DEVICECAPTUREREMOTE_POWER_DEVICE.DSN"- n "c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegro" - c "C:CadenceSPB_17.4 ools/capture/allegro.cfg" - v 3 - l 31 - s "" - j "PCB Footprint" - hpath "HPathForCollision"
Spawning... pstswp.exe - pst - d "C:USERSDDOYLEDOCUMENTSCADENCEBOARDSREMOTE POWER DEVICECAPTUREREMOTE_POWER_DEVICE.DSN"- n "c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegro" - c "C:CadenceSPB_17.4 ools/capture/allegro.cfg" - v 3 - l 31 - s "" - j "PCB Footprint" - hpath "HPathForCollision"
{ Using PSTWRITER 17.4.0 d001Dec-14-2021 at 09:00:49 }

INFO(ORCAP-36080): Scanning netlist files ...

Loading... c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegropstchip.dat

Loading... c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegropstchip.dat

Loading... c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegropstxprt.dat

Loading... c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegropstxnet.dat
packaging the design view...
Exiting... pstswp.exe - pst - d "C:USERSDDOYLEDOCUMENTSCADENCEBOARDSREMOTE POWER DEVICECAPTUREREMOTE_POWER_DEVICE.DSN"- n "c:usersddoyledocumentscadenceoards emote power devicelayoutallegro" - c "C:CadenceSPB_17.4 ools/capture/allegro.cfg" - v 3 - l 31 - s "" - j "PCB Footprint" - hpath "HPathForCollision"
INFO(ORNET-1179): *** Done ***

This issue started to occur after I changed parts that exist on previously created PCBs. I changed the following leading up to this:

1. Added height in Allegro to many of my components using the Setup->Area->Package Height tool.

2. Changed the reference designator category in OrCAD Capture to TP for several components on board.

Any advice here would be most welcome. Thanks!

I have managed to convert our old schematic and PCD file to from Layout 16.2 to 17.4

I have exported the footprints and moved them to the correct lib directory. 

I get no DRC errors and I can build a new netlist file. The problem is I can't get the PCB editor to update using the new netlist and get the following error:

I cannot figure out how to fix the Name is too long error. 

(---------------------------------------------------------------------)

(                                                                     )

(    Allegro Netrev Import Logic                                      )

(                                                                     )

(    Drawing          : 70055R2.brd                                   )

(    Software Version : 17.4S023                                      )

(    Date/Time        : Tue Dec 14 18:54:25 2021                      )

(                                                                     )

(---------------------------------------------------------------------)

------ Directives ------------

Ripup etch:                  Yes

Ripup delete first segment:  No

Ripup retain bondwire:       No

Ripup symbols:               IfSame

Missing symbol has error:    No

DRC update:                  Yes

Schematic directory:         'C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2'

Design Directory:            'C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2'

Old design name:             'C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/70055R2.brd'

New design name:             'C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/70055R2.brd'

CmdLine: netrev -$ -i C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2 -x -u -t -y 2 -h -z -q netrev_constraint_report.xml C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/#Taaaaae57776.tmp

------ Preparing to read pst files ------

Starting to read C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/pstchip.dat 

   Finished reading C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/pstchip.dat (00:00:00.02)

Starting to read C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/pstxprt.dat 

   Finished reading C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/pstxprt.dat (00:00:00.00)

Starting to read C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/pstxnet.dat 

   Finished reading C:/AFS/70055 PCB Test 2/pstxnet.dat (00:00:00.00)

------ Oversights/Warnings/Errors ------

#1   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'SW DPDT_9_SWITCH_OTTO_ALT_SW DPDT': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'SW DPDT_9_SWITCH_OTTO_ALT_SW DP' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#2   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'SW DPDT_10_SWITCH_OTTO_LIGHTS_SW DPDT': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'SW DPDT_10_SWITCH_OTTO_LIGHTS_S' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#3   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'SW DPDT_7_SWITCH_OTTO_ALT_SW DPDT': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'SW DPDT_7_SWITCH_OTTO_ALT_SW DP' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#4   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'SW DPDT_3_SWITCH_OTTO_MASTER_SW DPDT': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'SW DPDT_3_SWITCH_OTTO_MASTER_SW' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#5   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'SW DPDT_6_SWITCH_OTTO_LIGHTS_SW DPDT': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'SW DPDT_6_SWITCH_OTTO_LIGHTS_SW' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#6   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'SW DPDT_3_SWITCH_OTTO_MASTER_DPDT': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'SW DPDT_3_SWITCH_OTTO_MASTER_DP' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#7   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'CONNECTOR DB15_DSUBVPTM15_CONNECTOR DB15': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'CONNECTOR DB15_DSUBVPTM15_CONNE' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#8   ERROR(SPMHNI-176): Device library error detected.

ERROR(SPMHNI-189): Problems with the name of device 'CONNECTOR DB9_DSUBVPTM9_CONNECTOR DB9': 'Name is too long.'.

ERROR(SPMHNI-170): Device 'CONNECTOR DB9_DSUBVPTM9_CONNECT' has library errors. Unable to transfer to Allegro.

#9   ERROR(SPMHNI-175): Netrev error detected.

ERROR(SPMHDB-195): Error processing 'M6': Text line is outside of the extents..

------ Library Paths ------

MODULEPATH =  . 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/local/pcb/modules 

PSMPATH =  . 

           symbols 

           .. 

           ../symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/local/pcb/symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/pcb/pcb_lib/symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/pcb/allegrolib/symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/pcb/pcb_lib/symbols 

PADPATH =  . 

           symbols 

           .. 

           ../symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/local/pcb/padstacks 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/pcb/pcb_lib/symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/pcb/allegrolib/symbols 

           C:/Cadence/SPB_17.4/share/pcb/pcb_lib/symbols 

------ Summary Statistics ------

#10  Run stopped because errors were detected

netrev run on Dec 14 18:54:25 2021

   DESIGN NAME : '70055R2'

   PACKAGING ON Nov  2 2021 14:32:04

   COMPILE 'logic'

   CHECK_PIN_NAMES OFF

   CROSS_REFERENCE OFF

   FEEDBACK OFF

   INCREMENTAL OFF

   INTERFACE_TYPE PHYSICAL

   MAX_ERRORS 500

   MERGE_MINIMUM 5

   NET_NAME_CHARS '#%&()*+-./:=>?@[]^_`|'

   NET_NAME_LENGTH 24

   OVERSIGHTS ON

   REPLACE_CHECK OFF

   SINGLE_NODE_NETS ON

   SPLIT_MINIMUM 0

   SUPPRESS   20

   WARNINGS ON

 10 errors detected

 No oversight detected

 No warning detected

cpu time      0:00:27

elapsed time  0:00:00

Hi,

I have a question about printing noise summary via maestro output expressions.

How can I print noise data using output expressions, for multiple levels of the hierarchy?

I have found this article which describe the procedure using ocnGenNoiseSummary() function: https://support.cadence.com/apex/ArticleAttachmentPortal?id=a1Od0000007MViHEAW&pageName=ArticleContent

I see also Andrew Beckett referring to the above mentioned article as a solution to a similar question: community.cadence.com/.../noise-summary-per-instance

However, this seems to work only if I'm to extract noise data from a single level of hierarchy.

If I have the output expression "ocnGenNoiseSummary(2 ?result 'hbnoise)", it will generate a "noisesummary" directory under results directory for a hierarchy level of 2.

If I am to extract data from various hierarchy levels, I should be able to generate multiple noise summary directories, such as noisesummary1, noisesummary2 where they correspond to "ocnGenNoiseSummary(1 ?result 'hbnoise)" & "ocnGenNoiseSummary(2 ?result 'hbnoise)", respectively. However this does not seem to be possible.

Can you please advice? Thanks.

My Cadence version: IC23.1-64b.ISR7.27

BR,

Denizhan Karaca

Hi

In the environment I'm currently working, axes are shown for schematic, symbol, and layout views.For schematics and symbols, I'd prefer a dim gray, such that the axes are just visible but not dominant. For the layout, I'd prefer a brighter color. Is there a way to realize this? So far when I change the color of the 'axis' layer in the display resource editor, the axes in all three views get changed together:

Thanks very much for your input!

How can I place stacked vias with the size exact same cut width without metals around?
As the red part only in the image below?

Hi

I have a rather strange question - is there a way to tell layout XL to NOT place the error/warning markers on a design when I open a cell?  I do a lot of my layout by using arrays from placed instances and create mosaics that completely ignore the metadata that Layout XL uses with its bindings with schematic (and instances get deleted etc. but I do like using it to generate all my pins etc.) and it's just really annoying when I open a design that I know is LVS clean and since the connectivity metadata is all screwed up (because I did not use it to actually complete the layout) I have a design that's just blinking at me at every gate, source and drain.  I typically delete them at the high level heirarchically but the second I go in and modify something and come back up it places all of them again.  I know that if I flatten all the p cells it goes away but sometimes it's nice to have that piece of metadata but that's about it.  Is there a way to "break" the features of XL like this?  I realize what a weird question this is but it's becoming more of an issue since we moved to IC 23 from IC 6 where there is no longer a layout L that I can use free from these annoyances that can't use any of the connectivity metadata.

Thanks

Chris

I want to use jaspergold to formally verify functionality of my custom multiplier. I am computing the expected result using A*B to check against output of my multiplier. Here, A and B are two logic signed operands. However, jaspergold is performing the operation A*B incorrectly.

I have reproduced this issue using the attached example. JasperGold compiles and elaborates the module and subsequently runs a formal proof. The tool raises a counterexample to assertion whose screenshot is attached below:

I simulated the same example using xrun and it was giving the correct product output in simvision waveform. Please help me resolve this issue. I am using 2023.03 version of Jasper Apps.

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Hi, I would be grateful if you can help me with this error which I get after trying to run an EMX simulation on a PCELL.

I've found very limited information in this forum. Thanks

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As you can find in the attached image, I am trying to simulate a Colpitts oscillator. However, using pss analysis it shows a high output power. 

My question is where is the problem of my structure or simulation setup?

Best,

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Hello,

I have a sensitive trace on layer 2 and I would like to prevent any routing along or across it on adjacent layers (L1 and L3).

My idea was to use a route keepout shape on L1 and L3, however that also removed the ground pour on those layers and I would like to keep the ground pour.

Can I get around this somehow or should I use something else than route keepout?

Regards,

Filip

hello:

i place a symbol into my design.

on my design, i change the symbol property by unlocking the symbol and unfixing pins so that i can move pins on the symbol.

i move some pins on my design.

but when i export the symbol from my design, the symbol is not current but has the original pin location.

is there a way to retain the pin locations after moving pins on a symbol when exporting the symbol?

regards

masa

Hai Community,

I have a PCB board which has multiple high speed nets and I want to perform the EMI and EMC checking.

Which Cadence tool should I use for checking the EMI and EMC coupling?

Regards,

Rohit Rohan

Has anyone experienced the same situation?

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